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Hi, all. I saw this video on youtube today. Someone setup their Akai APC to act like a monome. Here is the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLSIwTpTEc

I was wondering if someone could explain a couple things:
1. What exactly is going on in the video? What is the APC controlling?
2. Does anyone know how to map the APC like this without using MAX for live.
3. Would this also be possible wiht the Novation Launchpad.

Thanks in advance!

I've heard of people using something called monomulator - that apparently opens up all these settings on the apc and other hardware.

http://post.monome.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=439

it could be just clips which trigger each other with follow actions. no clue how he get the feedback, though. but as i don't have a device with feedback around yet, I can't test that..

well if it's just midi feedback I know with the launchpad you can route the midi output back via a separate midi channel. check out the video's by fletch (i think?) on youtube about launchpad use.

davepermen wrote:it could be just clips which trigger each other with follow actions. no clue how he get the feedback, though. but as i don't have a device with feedback around yet, I can't test that..

as i assume if apc represents status of clip, if clip is changed with follow action it automagically gets feedback. any apc user should confirm that.

just had a chance to watch the video. i think he's just using follow actions on clips? but not sure how hw gets it going sideways.

I dare you to try this sometime, it might shed some light on the topic:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=125748

It is indeed Follow actions. Notice the two triggering lights scrolling, that's due to the next clip being prepared based on the follow action setting.
Easy to make by Midi mapping the individual clips to the APC grid. Limitation, no scroll options beyond the 8x5 plus alternatively Clips Stop / Track select / Activator/Cue/Rec Arm. Can also be done to knobs but a lot more tedious and rather random...but fun

Furland wrote:It is indeed Follow actions. Notice the two triggering lights scrolling, that's due to the next clip being prepared based on the follow action setting.
Easy to make by Midi mapping the individual clips to the APC grid. Limitation, no scroll options beyond the 8x5 plus alternatively Clips Stop / Track select / Activator/Cue/Rec Arm. Can also be done to knobs but a lot more tedious and rather random...but fun

Sorry to sound like a newbie (still relatively new to Ableton), but can you please explain further...what exactly is going in the video? what is the apc controlling? if that is too much trouble to explain, don't worry about it. thanks in advance...

-N

I doubt that it is actual Follow Actions since each Horizontal Row is the same Note Number but a different Midi Channel.

Whoever made this video is using exclusively Ableton with follow actions.

1. 5 clips are chopped into 8 parts each and put into five tracks.
2. Set follow actions for each clip so the whole sample plays through.
3. Assign each button on the APC to a clip so that a row will display a whole sample playing across 8 lights.

Although it's a pretty cool trick, with the monomulator you just run mlr from your APC. The method above is far more time-consuming.

slaykent wrote:Whoever made this video is using exclusively Ableton with follow actions.

1. 5 clips are chopped into 8 parts each and put into five tracks.
2. Set follow actions for each clip so the whole sample plays through.
3. Assign each button on the APC to a clip so that a row will display a whole sample playing across 8 lights.

Although it's a pretty cool trick, with the monomulator you just run mlr from your APC. The method above is far more time-consuming.

Got it. Thanks.

Agree with Slaykent, and when you get the hang of it, it's not that complicated at all... Just a matter of configuring clips identically and then mapping each to the desired buttongs.

k ive been messing with this for like two hours and can not seem to replicate it ...


anyone done this successfully?

have a play with this one i made.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zwd1eimdnzg

uses track controll pots for pitch, duration and velocity. pan, send a, send b for the first 8 notes

ten uses device contol pots shift + 5-6-7 for the same functions for notes 9-16