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Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:12 pm
by punching_sandwiches
Hey guys, I'm getting into triggering sounds with trigger pads. I was wondering if there was a way I could set up ableton so that I can cycle through different samples with one pad.
For example if I have 10 different samples of hi-hats, I want it so the first time I hit the pad I trigger sample 1, then the next time I hit it I trigger sample 2 and so on..
Is there any way I can do this?
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:18 pm
by Icaro Ferre
I don't think you can do that without using an external application.
You can try doing that by creating a MaxMsp patch which I believe that can be done quite easily.
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:23 pm
by punching_sandwiches
Ah, I don't have/have never used MAX.
There must be a way to do it in Ableton.... what would this sort of effect be called so I can do more research?
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:36 pm
by siliconarc
search for 'round robin'
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:39 pm
by aeon_flux
it is possible but you need midi yoke bus on pc. i think you do not need anything extra on mac which has iac bus included by default. will be trying to recreate this on mac and my mpd18.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm2DgKLeGpQ
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:52 pm
by whalebox
Would follow actions work for this? Set the trigger to a dummy clip with a follow action of "random" and zero quantization across the board. I don't have a copy of Live in front of me so I can't test this, and I think there might be an issue with the quantization settings for the clips, but it might be worth a look.
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:09 pm
by aeon_flux
not having my mpd around, but i recreated it on mac with iac (instead of midi yoke) and drumrack (instead of impulse. i also skipped scale effect as my default mpd template has sharp notes). works fine.
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:16 pm
by punching_sandwiches
Ah cheers aeon_flux, that works perfectly!
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:20 pm
by zalo
everyone is making this too complicated
put a random midi effect set to 100%, alt and add
set the number of choices to the number of samples you want to scroll through
hit the pad, it now scrolls through
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:36 pm
by Icaro Ferre
zalo wrote:everyone is making this too complicated
put a random midi effect set to 100%, alt and add
set the number of choices to the number of samples you want to scroll through
hit the pad, it now scrolls through
So true, I totally forgot about the random function. But you can only scroll though 24 notes then it'll reset to the first note you've played.
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:32 pm
by aeon_flux
zalo wrote:put a random midi effect set to 100%, alt and add
what if you don't want randomness and cycling pads in expected manner?
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:32 am
by zalo
aeon_flux wrote:zalo wrote:put a random midi effect set to 100%, alt and add
what if you don't want randomness and cycling pads in expected manner?
the alt function, instead of random
its that little button next to choices
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:40 am
by aeon_flux
zalo wrote:
the alt function, instead of random
it make steps but for all input. key is to steping only one note so it still may require iac/midi yoke and mapping.
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:36 pm
by steff3
The latin percussion kits are programmed like that ... so if you have a chance to check them out, you will see the principle.
They map the samples to 4 adjustant keys within a single key trigger drum rack and use a MIDI fx to cycle through them. very straight forward.
hope that helps
best
Re: Same trigger different sample?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:49 pm
by zalo
aeon_flux wrote:zalo wrote:
the alt function, instead of random
it make steps but for all input. key is to steping only one note so it still may require iac/midi yoke and mapping.
not if you put it inside of the drum rack, ill just upload an example
http://www.wearerockstars.com/zalo/forums/DRexample.alp