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Posted: **Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:37 pm**

I'd expect another result:
8 0
8 1
8 2
....
....
....
8 23

but I have the last value repeated ..

could someone help me ??

Posted: **Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:01 pm**

When you're setting the value for pack, you're also triggering it. You need to set the value of the pack object without triggering it. You can do that with the set argument.
On top of that there is no message ordering.
One thing I've learned with max is: If you connect an outlet to multiple things, you want to control the order stuff happens in. Otherwise you'll get messed up results.

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<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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mhBd2oHxs+Ffg6wUOfqqhIZr2Kzppyyt+FvvlW.W
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

Posted: **Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:29 pm**

hoffman2k wrote:When you're setting the value for pack, you're also triggering it. You need to set the value of the pack object without triggering it. You can do that with the set argument.
On top of that there is no message ordering.
One thing I've learned with max is: If you connect an outlet to multiple things, you want to control the order stuff happens in. Otherwise you'll get messed up results.
Code: Select all
<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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mhBd2oHxs+Ffg6wUOfqqhIZr2Kzppyyt+FvvlW.W
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

this [t ] object is EXACTLY what I needed!
thank bjorn!

Posted: **Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:36 pm**

I'm a little bit ashamed...

but just a little bit, cause I believe in "ask questionq for learning, even basic questions"

I'd like to make a list with the the number I fire at the top, the current uzi index, and the result of the right outlet of the route 0.
X, Y and RESULT on the patch

Code: Select all

----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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AVQxgFUAlejZt4aDrMnmIcc5I0a9OeYxrYA
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

could you help me?
I read about right-to-left and bottom-to-top rules etc .. but I'm stuck yet (I may be stupid

)

Posted: **Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:33 pm**

Hi Julien
Not going to be able to help you with your last issue, but to build upon Bjorn's solution for the first fragment - in the interest of using the fewest objects possible, fyi you don't need that 2nd trigger (uzi gives you the index and bang already) and you don't need both arguments to the set object.

Another fyi, you could also use 'prepend' instead of 'set' if you wanted, although there's probably no difference.

<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

Posted: **Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:36 pm**

Try the code below. However, I've seen in other threads that live.path might not like Uzi. You might need a different approach.

<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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UFec4++Im2qG
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

Posted: **Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:55 pm**

Here's a version without Uzi. It isn't as pretty, but might work better if when making a bunch of calls to live.path.

<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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QK.lF66ScFHFpU6ToX5QSQpB1r7kr0m2nTLBL0L3y27+.B9N5s.
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

Posted: **Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm**

FWIW, I probably would put this in a js object and send it the track number:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

outlets =1 ;
var api = new LiveAPI(this.patcher);

function msg_int(t)
{
api.path = ("live_set");
scenes = api.getcount("scenes");
for(i=0;i<=scenes;i++){
thePath = "live_set tracks " + t + " clip_slots " + i + " clip";
api.path =(thePath);
n = parseInt(api.id);
outlet(0, t, i, n);

}
}

Posted: **Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:46 pm**

mzed wrote:FWIW, I probably would put this in a js object and send it the track number:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

outlets =1 ;
var api = new LiveAPI(this.patcher);

function msg_int(t)
{
api.path = ("live_set");
scenes = api.getcount("scenes");
for(i=0;i<=scenes;i++){
thePath = "live_set tracks " + t + " clip_slots " + i + " clip";
api.path =(thePath);
n = parseInt(api.id);
outlet(0, t, i, n);

}
}

my patch will evolve into very JS I guess.
in order to reduce object number etc.
for the moment, it is very ok, efficient etc ... so

but it could be more efficient and more cute!

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