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Sound on Sound magazine, UK edition, October 2009 issue, page 102:

Well, Logic obviously, but also [Ableton] Live. Some of the changes that they have made in version 8 have meant that it could well become one of our more creative workhorses form now on. The groove engine on it is phenomenal, I really have never seen anything like it. It beats anything else hands down! And because it is fixed-point processing as opposed to floating point, it seems to have a very different sound as well. It's a little bit thinner but it's just a lot tighter.

Fixed point processing? Where did that nugget of info come from exactly? There's a lot of misinformation out there about "sound engines" and "summing engines" in general, only some of which relates to Ableton, but this one takes the cake...

It's one thing for a bunch of uninformed n00b forum trolls to post thread after thread on this stuff with no real understanding, but this is a well-known act, who you would expect to know what they're talking about, in a well-regarded magazine, which should have either corrected them or pointed out in an editorial note that they're wrong.

Just wanted to bring this to the community's attention... it's not just n00bs who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

reedonculous

I'm surprised the SoS interviewer didn't edit that point out. The only fixed point system I can think of is Protools HD.

freemasons myspace blog wrote: On Thursday 26th November2009, James Wiltshire, one half of the Freemasons will be at the British Music Experience exhibition in London's O2 complex presenting a Production and Remix Masterclass.

so, that sounds like it was worth the money eh?
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =131524338





" ... in Live 8 the analogue summing is certainly a game changer ..."

" ... in Live 8 the analogue summing is certainly a game changer ..."

Come again?

oh, didn't you hear? It just got added like a few days ago.

Indeed, thanks to the new Dangerous Music output plug in that M4L added. Surprised it got so little attention on the forum til now. Even Roger Nichols is using it, really makes a world of difference.

Did anyone notice how much better music sounds if it is cold in the studio? I don't know why, but someone told me, that there is less molecules in the air and therefor less damping and brown jitter.
Is it a good idea to mix only if it is close to ten degrees inside? Any tips welcome.

Coldbert

A+ To El Roberto for the creating the new phrase "Brown Jitter". Love it.

henke wrote:Did anyone notice how much better music sounds if it is cold in the studio? I don't know why, but someone told me, that there is less molecules in the air and therefor less damping and brown jitter.
Is it a good idea to mix only if it is close to ten degrees inside? Any tips welcome.

Coldbert

My music sounds much better when wearing ear muffs. Could that be the reason?

hahaha.... Freemasons fail.

I think they're rubbish anyway.

necho wrote:hahaha.... Freemansons fail.

I think they're rubbish anyway.

Free Mansons? is that like a protest group to free the Manson family?
Or maybe former Marilyn Manson bandmembers who got free of Manson's tyranny in the studio?

MacGuffin wrote:

necho wrote:hahaha.... Freemansons fail.

I think they're rubbish anyway.

Free Mansons? is that like a protest group to free the Manson family?
Or maybe former Marilyn Manson bandmembers who got free of Manson's tyranny in the studio?

OH SHIT!!!!

My god.... I'm mortified.

I haven't felt this bad since I shat myself in front of the whole class on the first day of primary school....



better stealth edit that right away...

necho wrote:hahaha.... Freemansons fail.

I think they're rubbish anyway.

timothyallan wrote:

necho wrote:hahaha.... Freemansons fail.

I think they're rubbish anyway.

errrr..... YEAH!

I agree...

henke wrote:Did anyone notice how much better music sounds if it is cold in the studio? I don't know why, but someone told me, that there is less molecules in the air and therefor less damping and brown jitter.
Is it a good idea to mix only if it is close to ten degrees inside? Any tips welcome.

Coldbert

There are several ways to get this effect
The easy way is to seal all doors and windows and use a vacuum pump on the control room.

The other way is the 'cold tube', this is a pipe that runs from the monitor to your ear, via a bath of liquid nitrogen. The problem with these is if you accidentally "ear sneeze" you can blow liquid frosty music all over the interface.

Lastly, the 'pro' solution is to use speaker cones which are "fully out of phase" with the air molecules, sadly these are expensive, due to the price of antimatter.