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Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:16 pm
by spjuver
I have one questions about how to mixdown 4 different external channels into one audio file for mastering. I'm sending 4 different buses from Ableton to 4 different channels on my mixing console and then I want to rout it back but I don't have any clue how to do it. Anybody knows?

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:39 pm
by chapelier fou
I hope you have a good reason to do that.
Anyway be very careful, cause you could easily make an wire loop and cause huge damage to your ears and speakers.

My idea :

You should add a track in ableton, select a stereo input from your soundcard (should be enabled in the prefs), for instance "audio from 1/2". Switch monitor to off. route the stereo output from your mixer to the stereo input you've chosen. Enable recording on that track. Hit record and play.

Before doing this, maybe wait that someone confirms...

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:41 pm
by chapelier fou
Thinking of it, there is a device called " external instrument ". I never used it, but it may be useful.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:44 pm
by spjuver
chapelier fou wrote:I hope you have a good reason to do that.
Anyway be very careful, cause you could easily make an wire loop and cause huge damage to your ears and speakers.

My idea :

You should add a track in ableton, select a stereo input from your soundcard (should be enabled in the prefs), for instance "audio from 1/2". Switch monitor to off. route the stereo output from your mixer to the stereo input you've chosen. Enable recording on that track. Hit record and play.

Before doing this, maybe wait that someone confirms...
But i want to record 4 external channels from the mixer simultaneously. If i activate from "audio from 1/2" then i will only be able to record one channel at a time which was not my idea. So where do i route ext 1-2, ext 3-4, ext 5-6 and ext 7-6 to?

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:58 pm
by Tarekith
Send the master out of your mixer to one input pair on the soundcard. Don't route each mixer channel on the ...errr.... mixer to the soundcard seperately.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:04 pm
by spjuver
Tarekith wrote:Send the master out of your mixer to one input pair on the soundcard. Don't route each mixer channel on the ...errr.... mixer to the soundcard seperately.
Then I lose whole my point to mix down 4 different channels. I guess routing thru Logic gonna be my only option.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:15 pm
by Tarekith
Sorry, I guess I am not at all understanding what it is you're trying to do.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:39 pm
by spjuver
Tarekith wrote:Sorry, I guess I am not at all understanding what it is you're trying to do.
I'm just trying to record different external channels into one audio file :)

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:41 pm
by nbinder
Multichannel audio? Why would you like to do that? Surround?

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:54 pm
by chapelier fou
For some reason you want to route your four buses in four tracks of your hardware mixer, and record the result back in ableton, right ?

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:59 pm
by spjuver
chapelier fou wrote:For some reason you want to route your four buses in four tracks of your hardware mixer, and record the result back in ableton, right ?
exactly.

external outs from ableton to hardware mixer and then back to computer again.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:02 pm
by Tarekith
Does your soundcard have 4 stereo inputs?

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:03 pm
by spjuver
Tarekith wrote:Does your soundcard have 4 stereo inputs?
Of course.

Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:20 pm
by Tarekith
You say of course, but you never say what card you're using, so we have no way of knowing. Does this help:

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Re: Mixdown

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:50 pm
by spjuver
Tarekith wrote:You say of course, but you never say what card you're using, so we have no way of knowing. Does this help:

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I have Motu896HD as soundcard and my mixer looks exactly like the one on the picture. So how can I record all external channels to only one audio file?