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Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:10 am
by dentaku
I'm curious as to why when I use my Korg nanoKontrol the regular way and just map knobs manually, Pickup/Takeover mode works but when I use it with a MIDI Remote Script (modified Myr script) it doesn't "pickup" at all but just jumps quickly to wherever the hardware knob is?
Has anyone figured this out?
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:09 pm
by dentaku
Last night I also found that whether you're using a midi remote script or not, manually mapped stuff will not use takeover/pickup correctly if you switch scenes on the nanoKontrol but that's not a huge deal because I rarely go out of scene one.
I'm going to mess with the script and see what I can find.
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:27 pm
by SubFunk
dentaku wrote:Last night I also found that whether you're using a midi remote script or not, manually mapped stuff will not use takeover/pickup correctly if you switch scenes on the nanoKontrol but that's not a huge deal because I rarely go out of scene one.
I'm going to mess with the script and see what I can find.
oh, please!
i use scene change a lot, i usually run around 16 channels when producing and i use the myralfur-sub script, switching the scene and not having takeover for the volume sliders is a real bummer. myralfur said it is apparently not possible for some reason, but well, that is an area i have zero clue about, it would be the bomb if it is, though. myralfur said he is working on a M4L solution... if there is one, that would be most probably reason enough for me to get M4L.
thanks for any input on this, from any of the knowledgeable folks out there!
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:20 pm
by dentaku
Yeah, it'll probably never happen wihtout Max4Live magic of some sort. I can see how it's annoying for people who switch scenes allot.
It's just funny that it at least kinda works if you don't use the midi remote script but doesn't at all with it.
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:22 pm
by SubFunk
i reckon it's on purpose.
they need to sell APCs and Launchpads.
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:37 pm
by LoopStationZebra
A couple of good threads on this topic exist already. Do a quick search. From what I gather, including reading the Korg forums, it's more an issue on Korg's end. The hardware's got to support it.
Used to really bum me out until I ditched everything for a single LP. lol
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:06 pm
by SubFunk
LoopStationZebra wrote:A couple of good threads on this topic exist already. Do a quick search. From what I gather, including reading the Korg forums, it's more an issue on Korg's end. The hardware's got to support it.
Used to really bum me out until I ditched everything for a single LP. lol
i believe, but then it's odd that it works when you map it manually!?!
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:15 pm
by dentaku
Yup, I've read all the threads and it's still weird that it works when you map stuff manually then stops just because you changed scenes. I can't see how or why Live even cares that the hardware changed scenes. The encoders just send (cc_no, cc_value, channel) as far as I know. I'm probably wrong

Oh well, it'll probably never happen.
SubFunk wrote:LoopStationZebra wrote:A couple of good threads on this topic exist already. Do a quick search. From what I gather, including reading the Korg forums, it's more an issue on Korg's end. The hardware's got to support it.
Used to really bum me out until I ditched everything for a single LP. lol
i believe, but then it's odd that it works when you map it manually!?!
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:09 pm
by Pipotron4000
I found the bug in the script (because i'm coding a padkontrol version based on it

)
Try to replace all the "feedback_rule, 1)" by "feedback_rule,
0)" in the .py files
And remember to erase all the pyc files to force recompile them
Be very careful, only replace the 1 by 0, and make a backup of all your files before saving a new version
It worked for my padkontrol script
Now it take over and this is not due to KORG (because it work on my padkontrol) but to script
Tell me if it works for you
PS : this is probably due to a modification of function "map_midi_cc_with_feedback_map" between AL7 and AL8
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:22 am
by oddstep
yeah. I reckon it can be fixed by understanding the py files that myr used- particularly the ones that have a general role (rather than addressing what specific cc do). Lets not start getting m4live on this. Fight babylon!
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:25 am
by SubFunk
Pipotron4000 wrote:I found the bug in the script (because i'm coding a padkontrol version based on it

)
Try to replace all the "feedback_rule, 1)" by "feedback_rule,
0)" in the .py files
And remember to erase all the pyc files to force recompile them
Be very careful, only replace the 1 by 0, and make a backup of all your files before saving a new version
It worked for my padkontrol script
Now it take over and this is not due to KORG (because it work on my padkontrol) but to script
Tell me if it works for you
PS : this is probably due to a modification of function "map_midi_cc_with_feedback_map" between AL7 and AL8
would you care to share the PadK script? PLEASE
and anyone who can fix the myr and the myr-sub version... for me what you are talking about is completely chinese, but i would be very happy if it works and i can use it...
THANK YOU!!!
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:53 pm
by Trypset
yeah for real. Please post up the edited, working mylfur script. Pretty please ??

Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:27 pm
by Pipotron4000
This is the PC version :
http://rapidshare.com/files/368071483/n ... d.rar.html
Remember to backup your old files (py and pyc) and erase old pyc files to force recompile
I can't modify MAC ones, but may be someone can copy/paste from this script to MAC...if it work on PC
Try those files and tell me if it work
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:28 pm
by Trypset
maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I deleted all the old files in my nanoKontrol midi script. Replaced them with the ones you supplied.
Move volume fader 1 to say %50. tab over to scene 2 and move volume fader 1 to say %75...tab back to scene 1 and the volume immediately jumps. Not working

You got me all cited. I appreciate any help you can offer to get this sorted.
What am I missing?
Re: Takeover Mode and nanoKontrol works without midiremotescript
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:48 pm
by Pipotron4000
Trypset wrote:maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I deleted all the old files in my nanoKontrol midi script. Replaced them with the ones you supplied.
Move volume fader 1 to say %50. tab over to scene 2 and move volume fader 1 to say %75...tab back to scene 1 and the volume immediately jumps. Not working

You got me all cited. I appreciate any help you can offer to get this sorted.
What am I missing?
Did you erased the old PY and
PYC files ?
Because if you let the old PYC, you still use the old script
And of course, activated the takeover in MIDI sync settings in Ableton ?