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I've just got back from a voyage around other sequencers.... back to Logic for a bit, then a bit of time in Reaper-land...

And here I am once again. I just keep coming back. I can't make music without Live any more.

*cut to scene of Robert Henke in stark film noir lighting wearing welder's goggles, laughing maniacally* "YeZZZZzzz you Zeeee... ZIS is our PLAHN!"

Abletons sequencer/piano roll editor is bar none the best around. I just had a heavy dose of Logic 9 over the holidays working with a good friend---And FUCK was it pissing me off. Love lots of other goodies within it, but the hell with sequence editing inside of it. It was like coming home to a warm fire with a bottle of brandy and a pot of vege' stew once I finally got to get back to the Abe' flow of things. It just makes sense.

squelcht wrote:Abletons sequencer/piano roll editor is bar none the best around. I just had a heavy dose of Logic 9 over the holidays working with a good friend---And FUCK was it pissing me off. Love lots of other goodies within it, but the hell with sequence editing inside of it. It was like coming home to a warm fire with a bottle of brandy and a pot of vege' stew once I finally got to get back to the Abe' flow of things. It just makes sense.

yes indeed. I find Live's piano roll far easier than pretty much all the other ones I've used. I really like Logic for its scalability and depth (and for nostalgia), and Reaper for its audio features and routing, but overall Live wins.

i just started getting the hang of ableton (after a loooooooong time of dabling here and there with it) and I also love the midi editing. Particularly because its SIMPLE! Yes DP, Logic and Cubase can do anything under the sun to midi but 99% of the time I just want to quickly move notes around without having to think through menus and boxes.

here's to simplicity

dear Henke,

This picture was Just what I needed before going to bed

Thank you for a great laugh

wait...what?

ok, i must not understand something, because i am not fond of piano roll editing in Live. i almost hate it. i 'grew up' in Reason. then Logic. i love both of their piano rolls...

any tips? i really want to hold command and write a note, let go and be able to move the note.

I did the same thing a while back. Live just feels comfortable. Welcome back.

I've just got back from a voyage around other sequencers.... back to Logic for a bit, then a bit of time in Reaper-land...And here I am once again. I just keep coming back. I can't make music without Live any more.

I know that feeling only too well. For me, it's normally Logic, Pro Tools (and a little Reason too sometimes), and then *BANG*, Live is back! Have to agree with everyone else here, the Piano Roll editor in Live is the best of any DAW, and as for...

I just had a heavy dose of Logic 9 over the holidays working with a good friend---And FUCK was it pissing me off. Love lots of other goodies within it, but the hell with sequence editing inside of it.

It's the one thing about Logic I have always hated. It's truly awful and seems very sloppy next to Live.

UNIX ?!

squelcht wrote:Abletons sequencer/piano roll editor is bar none the best around. I just had a heavy dose of Logic 9 over the holidays working with a good friend---And FUCK was it pissing me off. Love lots of other goodies within it, but the hell with sequence editing inside of it. It was like coming home to a warm fire with a bottle of brandy and a pot of vege' stew once I finally got to get back to the Abe' flow of things. It just makes sense.

this makes me curious.. do i miss some important hidden functions here? because for me the pianoroll editor in live is rather rudimentry and missing a lot of functions like overlap correction or elimination of doubled notes or showing exact event positions... all the keycommands



what is it you especially like in the ableton editor ? maybe i underestimate it?

Damn you, Ableton, to hell! lol

DJ Voyetra wrote:! Have to agree with everyone else here, the Piano Roll editor in Live is the best of any DAW, and as for...

It's the one thing about Logic I have always hated. It's truly awful and seems very sloppy next to Live.

I find that I'm getting much more stuff done in Logic using Live as a sidekick lately. Logics piano roll + event list is so awesome.