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triggering vsti's using midi drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:06 am
by polemans
anyone tried using an alesis D4 drum module to trigger vsti's in Ableton 4?
I'm having trouble finding compatible vsti's. The D4 module does not send midi note off data, hence the vsti's sound cuts off abruptly at the beggining of the note. The only vst'i (for OS9) have found to work are the 'MDA piano' and 'plugsound free', they seem to ignore the length of the midi note, and play the note in full, but.... they're not a lot to shout home about sound wise... vsti's that ignore midi note length anyone??
its a real shame simpler doesn't work as this would be the ideal as it is so cpu friendly...(yes, i've tried altering all the 'adsr' parameters)
any of you's had any experiences with triggering vsti's and soft synths via the D4, (or any other midi drum modules). if i have to buy a different drum trigger module, which one sends more usefull/programmable midi data????
any advice, is there simpler way than testing a hundred vsti's or buying another midi drum module...??
cheers, polemans.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:10 pm
by random_noise_generator
My drummer has Roland V-Drums connected to Kontakt in Live 4 and we get the same problem. My answer is to set the looping mode of each sample to "one shot" - this sorts it if you are using Konakt. If you are using Simpler setting a long release time also works for me, not sure why it doesn't for you...

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:34 pm
by polemans
thanks, tried a long release time in simpler but no luck. I have problems with Kontakt within ableton, a high pitched sound every time i trigger a sample..?
I think its the alesis D4 that causes the majority of problems...still searching..

great website and fantastic music by the way mr Random mG...

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:58 am
by Frank Hoffmann
polemans and random_noise_generator,

Thanks for reporting. We would like to investigate the problem.

From your description of the problem it should actually work without any tricks and straight away. Can you please send us a event recorder file of the problem? Make your actions as short as possible. Do it from scratch. Important: Don't change the window size while doing something in Live.

Create a Options.txt file in your Preferences folder of the actual Live installation. This should be something like Ableton/Live4.0.4/ next to the Preferences.cfg file. Contact me if you can't find the right location. Put the text line -EventRecorder inside of the file followed by a backspace. Start Live and create some MIDI drum events that don't work correctly in as few steps as possible. Quit Live.

You will find a file events.txt in a Events folder inside of the Preferences folder if you did everything right. Please send the file to me.

Thanks in advance,

Frank