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Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:17 am
by timothyallan
How to get Live to not use/install rewire on launch?

I remember years ago doing this, but I can't remember how and am not sure if it's changed on 8 or not. I want to run Logic and Live without rewire. I know I can start Live first, but I'd like to know how to remove rewire on OSX.

I already renamed the rewire bundle to something else and write protected the folder... Live gives an error but still starts in slave mode.

I explored the Live.app package and renamed the rewire bundle in there... Live says it's not installed properly but still loads in slave mode.

running out of ideas!

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:27 am
by Pitch Black

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:37 am
by timothyallan
thaaaaats what it was!

Thanks p-dawg :)

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:49 am
by timothyallan
Hrmm short lived happiness... No worky.

Have created a plaintext file in the same folder as the pref.cfg file with one line:

-ReWireSlaveOff

capitalization is right for the filename and the rewire command... Live still loads as slave. Also tried -ReWireSlaveOff=1 to no avail.

Anyone done this successfully? Abes give an example on turning off RewireMaster, but not slave.

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:15 pm
by Pitch Black
" ReWireSlaveOff " <--- as quoted in the other thread. ummm... try the space before the R??

Maybe it got "improved"...

Or here's a really old list... I'm sure you could feck up a few things with this!! :P Perhaps try some of the Rewire options (no responsibility accepted :twisted: )
sqook wrote:Here's the list of symbols defined in the Live 4.1.2 binary nearby "MIDINoteFeedback". I suspect that this is the list of recognized debug symbols, but I'm not sure how to tweak them all, namely those which require numerical input.

AWarpDataPtr
AWarpDataPool
AlwaysShowRecordAutomation
AudioMemorySize
AsioNoClockSource
AsioNoSampleRateCheck
AsioNoSetSampleRate
AsioSupportProcessNow
ClipFireWillContinueSong
ChallengeMethod
CheckForUnlinkedComponents
CheckInfoTextSpace
ConsolidateExposed
DirectAssert
DisableDirectIo
DisableUpdateOverviews
DontLogExceptions
DontStoreCompoundPaths
DontUseCoreAudio
DrawDirectlyToScreen
DrawRandomBackground
DriveEngineTiming
DumpAddControlled
EnableDirectIo
EnableProfileLog
FileOpenLimit
GrainDelayLikeInLive3
Halion3BugWorkaround
HideSerialNumber
MIDINoteFeedback
MeterUpdateRate
NoAudioUnitLogic6Emulation
NoCrashLogging
NoVstStartupScan
NoMidiServer
NoMidiJitterCorrection
NoMidiEventFiltering
MidiEventThinning
OldInstrumentOnOff
Patch
PreLoad
RecordClipPrimeRate
ReportZeroLengthClips
ReWireChannels
ReWireLogic
ReWireMasterOff
ReWireMasterBufferSize
ReWireSlaveOff
ReWireSonar
SampleTimeOverflowScale
SelectNoAudioAsDefault
SendSPPInArrangerLoops
SetAssertMode
SoundManagerBufferSize
StackTraces
StrictSoundfileSpecification
SharedMemStoragePath
SuppressStartUpMessages
TestPaths
TextStreams
ThinningAggressiveness
Trace
TraceLog
TrackFadeTime
UndoStepsAtMouseUp
UpdateTest
UseDebugPrefs
IgnorePrefs
UseNormalAllocatorForOMemory
UseOwnGeneratedMidiTimeStamps
WriteLanguageFile
ReCreateHistory
MemoryBasedUndo
NoRestoreDocumentDialog
UndoSplashScreenFixOsX
VectorSize
VirtualAudioOut
VirtualAudioIn
VolumeCurvesLive2
VstNoLocalDir
VstNoUserDir
LogCpuPerformance
MeterAnalysationInterval
TestDir
TestScript
RunTestScript
SaveDocumentAfterTest
SaveDocumentAfterRecording
SaveAppViewAfterTest
SaveAppViewAfterRecording
BatchMode
BrowserDir1
BrowserDir2
FixedSize
InitialDocument
StartEventRecording
FastEventPlayback
CombineMouseMoves
WriteScriptOnTheFly
DontRecordAutoscrolling
EnablePseudoDevice
EventRecorder
ForceUseHyperThreading

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:33 am
by LethalRush
Yeah I'm having the exact same problem. Live's Log acknowledges that the ReWireSlaveOff but it still runs in Slave mode anyway.

Any fixes????

Live 8.0.9

Incidentally, Live 8.1 does work with ReWireSlaveOff, but I can't use it since it crashes on my project file.

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:49 am
by timothyallan
It works for you in 8.1.1? I see it in the log file on load, but it still always loads as slave...

I'm on 10.6.2, are you on windows?

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:01 am
by LethalRush
I'm running OSX 10.4.11
Live 8.0.9 <- doesnt work
Live 8.1.0 <- does work

havent tested for 8.1.1

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:44 am
by leedsquietman
Just curious - why would you not want to run rewire ?

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:30 am
by 3phase
to still use your apc for example? or to be able to record into live directly?

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:10 am
by timothyallan
I'm using VST's in Live that generate and send out midi to Logic's synths... can't do that when rewiring.

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:08 am
by LethalRush
Sometimes when I'm working in Logic I'll need to quickly chop something up, timestretch a sample, or try different arrangements of a logic render in Live. I don't want Live to be a slave in that scenario.

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:29 am
by MadPsyance
Anyone get this figured out? I'm trying to MTC Live with Cubase so I can sync them and still use VST's in Live..something you can't do with rewire...

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:15 am
by Pitch Black
I guess it comes down to just booting Live first, if you don't want to invoke Rewire. No problem doing that. Or am I missing something you guys want?

Re: Stop Live from installing Rewire on Launch

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:26 am
by timothyallan
The issue is that the option that -should- disable rewire slave doesn't work in the most recent versions of Live. If I change the name of it to Rewireslaveblahbalbh I get an error when Live loads. However, when it's named properly in the options.txt, Live loads without error, but just doesn't use the flag.