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I love the whole rising up intensity that a lot of house/techno DJ's use, I want to know how people are coming up with these..

What's this "white noise" build up I hear about?

You can generate white or pink noise in most sound editing software. If you have no one, Audacity (free) can do this for you: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
When you will have a noise sample, put it in Live and play with Auto Filter, Eq, add verb if you like, etc. cut sample, create rhythmic phrases out of noise sample - everything depends on your imagination

sounds good, thanks

i was just playing around with making some sounds like this by adding a big reverb with a long decay time to a snare or other little hit resampling it to another track and then reversing it. can get some pretty cool sounds playing around with differnt effects like that.

pipedreams wrote:i was just playing around with making some sounds like this by adding a big reverb with a long decay time to a snare or other little hit resampling it to another track and then reversing it. can get some pretty cool sounds playing around with differnt effects like that.

I'm gonna try this out right now, same little trick as a reverse cymbal I suppose, only I can try and time it out so I can make 4 bar, 8 bar etc samples

make a ton of them, the put em into a sampler, one per key...

then you can just 'feel it out' with your fingers on your midi controller to find which ones are best for a given song.

fast fast fast!

Interesting hearing these methods. I usually start with the native ableton 'distored wind machine' and tweak it to make it rise. I also like to take cymbals and reverb and stretch the hell out of it for a similar effect.

On this note. I wonder if there is some sort of VST that can assist in creating wooshy buildups? Anyone?

brucek wrote:Interesting hearing these methods. I usually start with the native ableton 'distored wind machine' and tweak it to make it rise. I also like to take cymbals and reverb and stretch the hell out of it for a similar effect.

On this note. I wonder if there is some sort of VST that can assist in creating wooshy buildups? Anyone?

At first I wondered.., then I slapped myself on the wrist because I'm trying to use ONLY ableton devices/instruments in my Live set.. I like the idea of a sampler loaded with different ones, they'd be fun to actually swoop and swoosh them live instead of just triggering a clip

i use that multisample technique for EVERYTHING.

it's going to be detailed in my 12 week online course when it drops in the summer.

brucek wrote:Interesting hearing these methods. I usually start with the native ableton 'distored wind machine' and tweak it to make it rise. I also like to take cymbals and reverb and stretch the hell out of it for a similar effect.

On this note. I wonder if there is some sort of VST that can assist in creating wooshy buildups? Anyone?

Sylenth is a great VST for generating incredible build ups. This is in part due to the 'white noise' waveform you can have on all four oscillators.

If you've got RMX.. watch the tutorial vid "reverse cymbals must die trick".

Turns RMX into your rise/ wash/ flourish or build up goto plug. Easy.

you have operator? it can create pretty white noise. put some eq8 behind it with a lowpass and a highpass filter on (or two autofilters) and, at best, map both to the same midi knob or such.

swoosh upwards and downwards for lots of fun. add a reverb behind so the take-out sounds sweet echo-like.

oh, and optionally, put a compressor in sidechaining mode behind it, so you can make the beats drop in with full punch at will.

operator is very powerful and my default tool for about everything. takes the magic out of all those effects if you notice all you need to do is a noise + some filtering

i have one building up till some break/new thing (till the 16th beat), and one starting at 0 and going down from there.

you can hear it here http://soundcloud.com/davepermen/davepermen-4080160 (shameless plug )