Ableton Forum

did a search but all i find is that version 8 added support for Cocoa plug-ins.. but is Ableton itself a Cocoa application?
thanks in advance..

thanks 3dot! but i don't get it..

What is this MacDonalds?

the reason I ask is I wanted to try this app but it seems to work only on cocoa apps..
http://www.eternalstorms.at/utilities/p ... index.html

never mind.. seems Cocoa is a application platform for OSX only.. and since Ableton is both PC/MAC, I assume it's written in some other code..
i still don't get the fat chick though.. is her name Cocoa or something? or is she just laughing at me for asking such a bonehead question..

nuxnamon wrote:never mind.. seems Cocoa is a application platform for OSX only.. and since Ableton is both PC/MAC, I assume it's written in some other code..
i still don't get the fat chick though.. is her name Cocoa or something? or is she just laughing at me for asking such a bonehead question..

She's black..

Well, Live is written in C++, as far as I'm aware

nuxnamon wrote: i still don't get the fat chick though.. is her name Cocoa or something?

don't try and read too far into it.. she's a comedian named 'cocoa brown'...
some silly random bullshit ..

3dot... wrote:

nuxnamon wrote: i still don't get the fat chick though.. is her name Cocoa or something?

don't try and read too far into it.. she's a comedian named 'cocoa brown'...
some silly random bullshit ..

thanks for clearing that up.. i was definitely reading into it too much.. i thought it was because her skin was brownish, like hot cocoa..

nuxnamon wrote:did a search but all i find is that version 8 added support for Cocoa plug-ins.. but is Ableton itself a Cocoa application?
thanks in advance..

A: Carbon.

nuxnamon wrote:never mind.. seems Cocoa is a application platform for OSX only.. and since Ableton is both PC/MAC, I assume it's written in some other code..

A Mac app can be written in Carbon or Cocoa, Live being cross-platform is unrelated to which framework they used for the Mac.

nuxnamon wrote: thanks for clearing that up.. i was definitely reading into it too much.. i thought it was because her skin was brownish, like hot cocoa..

Hi nuxnamon,

do you know about the menu command View->Full Screen? Is that maybe what you are looking for?

Cheers,
Tobias

(PS: To get back out, click the little yellow arrow in the lower right corner.)
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I'm pretty sure they're still using Carbon, and they've said in numerous interviews and job postings that Live is implemented primarily in C++.

However, the fact that they're using C++ and are developing a cross-platform app. doesn't preclude them from moving to Cocoa (hopefully sooner rather than later as Apple seems pretty intent on ditching Carbon as much as they can as soon as they can). They probably have the main body of the application implemented in C++, which calls out to some platform specific code for the UI and accepting user input and things.

Rewriting the OS X bit that uses Carbon for the UI and stuff probably isn't easy, but I'm sure they're at least thinking about it even if they haven't started!