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beats me wrote:But the whole laying out the iTunes tie-in like it's some money grab conspiracy is just misleading the public and I know a lot of less savvy computer users will take it at face value. It's like complaining that you can't play PS3 games on an Xbox. Releases for game consoles also have their approval and quality control procedures. It's not a development free for all.

It's also misguiding to insinuate you have to get all your music, movie, and TV show content from the iTunes store because you don't. It's just one of many ways you can get your content that is also the easiest with the integration, but you can still play any media as long as it's encoded in a format that Apple OS reads, and while it doesn't support all formats, there is plenty of free translating software that will encode it to a common format it can read.

Dexes wrote:

beats me wrote:But the whole laying out the iTunes tie-in like it's some money grab conspiracy is just misleading the public and I know a lot of less savvy computer users will take it at face value. It's like complaining that you can't play PS3 games on an Xbox. Releases for game consoles also have their approval and quality control procedures. It's not a development free for all.

It's also misguiding to insinuate you have to get all your music, movie, and TV show content from the iTunes store because you don't. It's just one of many ways you can get your content that is also the easiest with the integration, but you can still play any media as long as it's encoded in a format that Apple OS reads, and while it doesn't support all formats, there is plenty of free translating software that will encode it to a common format it can read.

The EU threatend to smash M$ for pre-installing IE and abusing their monopoly in the OS market to promote their internet browser. Which was only put off by M$ agreeing to sell win7 without a browser in the EU.
And judging by the poularity of all the "i" products I defenatly see a similarity in the way itunes is used on i- Phone/Pod/Pad.
The difference is you have several big companies competeing in the game console market (and most big games are available for all of them) whereas apple is clearly running the mp3player market without any serious competition. So I feel it's a good comparison - actually in a way they're even worse than M$, as IE is free, whereas the itunes store (and not to forget the apps store for i- phone/pad) is a service that users have to pay for.

ChiDJ wrote:Face it BM,

The iPAID is a total fail! It's a gimmick to obtain more subscribers to iTunes, iTV and IBooks.

And the Flash issue is huge. Also, the inability to truly multi task on the pad is a Joke!

This from a total Apple Fanboy.

Tod

beats me wrote:There's no way the iPad is going to be another Newton. Newton was based on nothing. The iPad is based on the success of the iPhone and iPod touch. Can we all agree those are successful? OK, let's move forward.

Personally I'm looking forward to the games. If I were to do an hour to hour comparison I probably spend more time playing games on my iPhone than I do on my PS3. I'm a big fan of quick load little goofy time wasting games. I don't always have the time or mindset to get into epic adventure games on consoles.

Flash programmer and shill wrote:Yup. No Flash support is the deal breaker for me.

And the author gets it wrong, as most do these days. Or at least partially correct. While it's true that Flash is a container for a huge amount of video content on the web, it's presence is MUCH larger than that. The interactivity and animated features make it a vast part of websites; particulary in menu work.

Just go to sony.com

The ENTIRE fucking website is Flash. ffs. And that's far from the norm. Flash is everywhere and it's disingenuous to suggest that video is it's key presence. Not even close. This is where the 'HTML 5 will replace Flash' argument utterly falls apart and is spoke of by people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about. HTML might act as a video container replacement for Flash, but all that other stuff? All that animated menu stuff and interactivity that Flash brings. Not even close.

beats me wrote:

Flash programmer and shill wrote:Yup. No Flash support is the deal breaker for me.

And the author gets it wrong, as most do these days. Or at least partially correct. While it's true that Flash is a container for a huge amount of video content on the web, it's presence is MUCH larger than that. The interactivity and animated features make it a vast part of websites; particulary in menu work.

Just go to sony.com

The ENTIRE fucking website is Flash. ffs. And that's far from the norm. Flash is everywhere and it's disingenuous to suggest that video is it's key presence. Not even close. This is where the 'HTML 5 will replace Flash' argument utterly falls apart and is spoke of by people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about. HTML might act as a video container replacement for Flash, but all that other stuff? All that animated menu stuff and interactivity that Flash brings. Not even close.

Dexes wrote:The EU threatend to smash M$ for pre-installing IE and abusing their monopoly in the OS market to promote their internet browser. Which was only put off by M$ agreeing to sell win7 without a browser in the EU.