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could this be possible? Like an advanced automation editing feature in max? If so, who´s gonna do it?

Yeah you could do it, but it's still a hassle. That was one of the reasons I bought the student discounted Logic Pro. I like my automation to be accurate :]

marcoskohler wrote:Yeah you could do it, but it's still a hassle.

I guess that depends on how you implement it. What would be a handy way of implementation?

any ideas?

oh cool, thx! I havent got max installed atm, can anybody tell me if thats a good solution?

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wouldnt it be great if a musical software had bezier curves for automation ?


yes i know im dreaming...

fruity loops is great in this sense.

Grappadura wrote:fruity loops is great in this sense.

yes , i have used flstudio for like 8 years or so , and i switched to live , but i miss so many things.


the step sequencer and piano roll , bezier curves and its playlist , i think im going to start re using fl again.

Tweaking Knobs wrote:

Grappadura wrote:fruity loops is great in this sense.

yes , i have used flstudio for like 8 years or so , and i switched to live , but i miss so many things.


the step sequencer and piano roll , bezier curves and its playlist , i think im going to start re using fl again.

I´m currently trying to use both live and fl, but I´m not sure about the workflow... how would you do it?

You can use FL studio as a VST I believe in other hosts. Or rewire.

Let's not forget though that while FL Studio has some advantages, it also has a lot lacking compared to Live, and Live is especially better at recording and manipulating audio. Audio is still something tacked on and half baked in FL Studio.

leedsquietman wrote:You can use FL studio as a VST I believe in other hosts. Or rewire.

Let's not forget though that while FL Studio has some advantages, it also has a lot lacking compared to Live, and Live is especially better at recording and manipulating audio. Audio is still something tacked on and half baked in FL Studio.

Yeah, and the workflow is not as handy as in live, the screen gets cluttered up fast and live is usually 2 or 3 clicks faster to achieve the same thing.

Grappadura wrote:could this be possible? Like an advanced automation editing feature in max? If so, who´s gonna do it?

I wrote a very simple M4L patch that will curve automation data applied to a M4L knob and apply it to any parameter. The tension of the curve is controlled via another (automatable) knob. I could post it after cleaning it up if there is interest...

There is a bit of misnomer between curves with a tension control and Bezier curves. Bezier curves are much more computationally intensive (you have to solve for a parametric equation at each step, or use fancy tricks to avoid doing so), and you have to limit the curve's range to avoid loops. I don't know of any DAW that supports true Bezier curves for automation data...haven't looked too hard though. Space Designer in Logic supports them for modifying IRs, but not for general automation data. Having a single tension control makes editing the curves quicker and computation more efficient.

sounds great, yeah I would be very interested!