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I was looking at a Powershot G10
for portable Power and tweaking options.

Only the price tag is quite close to a DSLR,
much more power and Options? Albeit much bigger, too...

Any thoughts / experoences?

cheers
malutki

i would just get an eos rebel. it'll take the eos lenses, so you can get a nice one and then someday upgrade the body, if you want

Any of you using DSLR to shoot video? It's getting quite insane what some DSLR's can do with HDV.

(anyway, sorry to hijack... back on topic)

Pitch Black wrote:Any of you using DSLR to shoot video? It's getting quite insane what some DSLR's can do with HDV.

(anyway, sorry to hijack... back on topic)

I am planning to ditch my GL1 and D50 for a single Canon DSLR for video and stills, simply amazing stuff and no more juggling lenses for multiple cameras.

malutki wrote:I was looking at a Powershot G10
for portable Power and tweaking options.

Only the price tag is quite close to a DSLR,
much more power and Options? Albeit much bigger, too...

Any thoughts / experoences?

cheers
malutki

It really depends on where you plan to go with things and how much gear you want to lug around. The G10 (the G11 is out now) is an amazing compact camera (that can produce a quality video as well) with a few lenses/flash options to extend its abilities and can produce a professional picture.

I'm no photo buff... but I'm surrounded by them every freaking day. As far as the G10 and the G whatever else goes, I really don't know. But, the company I work for just started a blog, and there are lots of articles and posts about all kinds of cameras:

http://www.bhinsights.com/

I'm handling the pro audio end of the blog. But, if you don't see the info you need in there now, feel free to make a comment on any photo post (you don't have to register to comment) and ask your question. There are photo experts with their eyeballs on this blog all day just waiting to help you out.

The new DSLRs like the 5D mkII and the 7D are pretty sweet. I want to get one of these things eventually to shoot HD video, but I'm going to sit it out for a while. Need to buy too much audio gear first.

Thanks for the input guys!

Can't find EOS Rebels in germany,
could they be the 450/500/1000D?

Because 399€/469€ for G10/11
oh boy...

Moody wrote:]
It really depends on how much gear you want to lug around.

is probably what it boils down to with this purchase, yeah.
because my wife has an older Pentax DSLR,
and while not the best it is still much better than the Panasonic compact crap I have now.

but can you guess which camera is taking more pics?


how I love/hate these luxury dilemmas

Pitch Black wrote:Any of you using DSLR to shoot video? It's getting quite insane what some DSLR's can do with HDV.

(anyway, sorry to hijack... back on topic)

Any make models? I'm getting into video and might get a a still camera to shoot video, superior everything and memory cards are fucking cheap anyway.

djsynchro wrote:

Pitch Black wrote:Any of you using DSLR to shoot video? It's getting quite insane what some DSLR's can do with HDV.

(anyway, sorry to hijack... back on topic)

Any make models? I'm getting into video and might get a a still camera to shoot video, superior everything and memory cards are fucking cheap anyway.

The new Canons are the only ones with 1080 HD.

moody is faster and more knowledgable

the nikon D5000 and D90 give you 1.280 x 720.

But the German forums on photography I sifted thru suggest Canon is having a bad phase at the moment and Nikon FTW.
Maybe they are right.

The cameras I saw/held in the store today, the big Nikons seemed much more sturdy/better at first glance.

Even though for compacts I'm drawn to Canons.

but Nikon is coming out with the P100:
H.264
1920 x 1080
HDR built in
tiltable display
10 shots/sec and pre-shot cache

why am I driving myself nuts with all this?
fuck it, i don't need a camera...

malutki wrote: Can't find EOS Rebels in germany,
could they be the 450/500/1000D?

Because 399€/469€ for G10/11
oh boy...

A brief history; Canon entry level digital SLR series
20/08/03: Canon EOS 300D / Digital Rebel (6 mp)
17/02/05: Canon EOS 350D / Digital Rebel XT (8 mp)
24/08/06: Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi (10 mp)
24/01/08: Canon EOS 450D / Digital Rebel XSi (12 mp)
10/06/08: Canon EOS 1000D / Digital Rebel XS (10 mp)*
25/03/09: Canon EOS 500D / Digital Rebel T1i (15.1 mp)

anyway i think my point was that:

the megapixels are way beyond reality already. you should worry more about quality of lens

get something where the best lens fits the cheapest body

Canon EOS 5D mkII is the daddy!

Look at the video footage people are taking with this on YouTube.

It's gorgeous!

I have even seen this footage in comparison to a pro Sony camcorder
costing twice as much, and the Canon wins easily.

There is another firmware update for the 5D mkII coming mid March
which will make it even better for video recording.

Moody wrote:

djsynchro wrote:

Pitch Black wrote:Any of you using DSLR to shoot video? It's getting quite insane what some DSLR's can do with HDV.

(anyway, sorry to hijack... back on topic)

Any make models? I'm getting into video and might get a a still camera to shoot video, superior everything and memory cards are fucking cheap anyway.

The new Canons are the only ones with 1080 HD.

The Canon Rebel T1i shoots 1080p video, but I don't think it has an audio input, and it records sound with a built-in mono mic. But, it's affordable at $749 USD. The 7D is the next step up. It has an audio input, and the image sensor is likely nicer looking. It can shoot in 24p for a film-like look. But it's around $1600. The 5D mkII is really well built for keeping out the elements. It's a true pro camera, and the image sensor is really big, so the picture is beautiful. But yeah... it costs money. $2500. Then there's one called the EOS 1D mk IV. This gets beyond my photo gear comprehension. But that bad boy is $5000.

These prices don't include lenses.

And keep in mind that shooting video with a camera body is awkward, and you really need to trick it out for stabilization.

longjohns wrote:anyway i think my point was that:

the megapixels are way beyond reality already.

Agreed. No more pixels crammed into the same small sensors please!

longjohns wrote:you should worry more about quality of lens

get something where the best lens fits the cheapest body

right Ok, that makes absolute sense.
I'll keep that in mind for a time where I might get a DSLR,
right now though I am a bit afraid I could buy a really sweet camera for loads of money,
and then be too lazy to take it out there....

And "The best camera is the one you have with you when the aliens land"

So it looks ike a G11 for me BUT THE VIDEO IS SO LOW RES

oh god, once I start comparing features, it's easy to start looking for the
"egg-laying wool-milk-pig"
there was this author on Colbert Report (or Daily Show) who wrote about the problems with too many options...

Oh and theres also the UltraHighSpeed Fuji with 1200fps and....