Ableton Forum

when listening to music from autechre or mouse on mars etc. i sometimes wonder if they simply have a multi purpose plug which rhythmically spits out cool granularish beats and voices when they randomly put samples in it.
whenever i try any of my granular synths/plugs etc., nothing useful comes out of it.
what's the trick? what do you use?
i love that kind of sound but i have no idea how to effectively produce it (and control it!).

laq

The secret is to play with the grain size and distance between grains. I have use KT Granulator with good success it's available for free at smartelectronix.com. It is on of Koen's plugs. Good luck.
Jon

Well, I think Autechre use a lot of algorithmic composition, and they *do* own the most powerful granular workstation, the Symbolic Sound Kyma, you might wanna check that out - I think it starts at around the 3000 dollar mark

There's some heavy-heavy duty programming going on in Autechre music, and I can't always tell what's algorithmic or "manual" input.

Andreas

that kyma thing looks good.
but can it do things i can't (theoretically) do with max/msp or reaktor?
i'm not experienced with either one yet, but i own them and was wondering which was the tool i should get more involved with.
i guess they can do similar things, but the kyma looks more powerful and maybe easier and more effective in handling?

erm i just listened to some of the demos ... no questions about autechre anymore ;p

You can easily whip up a granulizer in reaktor.
I have done it before (although the ensemble got wiped by accident.)
If I get another one done, I may be able to email you the ensemble. But that may take a while.
Steve