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Is any way to keep the tonal balance of my mix, while compressing with multiband compressor. May be there is any preset, or formula, or tuning algorythm to do this?

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I didn't hear anything wrong with it. There's a bit too much compression for my tastes, but the frequency balance sounded fine.

GrooveNinja wrote:I didn't hear anything wrong with it. There's a bit too much compression for my tastes, but the frequency balance sounded fine.

that is the thing - there is no multibandcompression...

jinek wrote:

GrooveNinja wrote:I didn't hear anything wrong with it. There's a bit too much compression for my tastes, but the frequency balance sounded fine.

that is the thing - there is no multibandcompression...

It sounds quite compressed. Did you use any compressor, or a limiter or a loudness maximizer of some sort? I thought that it was a bit too loud and lacking in dynamics, but I didn't hear anything untoward with the frequency spectrum. I am listening through the crappy built in sound card and cheap Sony headphones, though.

GrooveNinja wrote:

jinek wrote:

GrooveNinja wrote:I didn't hear anything wrong with it. There's a bit too much compression for my tastes, but the frequency balance sounded fine.

that is the thing - there is no multibandcompression...

It sounds quite compressed. Did you use any compressor, or a limiter or a loudness maximizer of some sort? I thought that it was a bit too loud and lacking in dynamics, but I didn't hear anything untoward with the frequency spectrum. I am listening through the crappy built in sound card and cheap Sony headphones, though.

i used one compressor on intrument subgroup, one on master (up to 1 db of compression), limiter (up to 4 db) and saturator(+2 db). yes it sounds as a lot of compression, but rms of the track is less then usual commercial one..

jinek wrote: i used one compressor on intrument subgroup, one on master (up to 1 db of compression), limiter (up to 4 db) and saturator(+2 db). yes it sounds as a lot of compression, but rms of the track is less then usual commercial one..

Many, if not most, commercial tracks since the late 90's are waaaaay super-over-compressed, so they may not be the best reference. It doesn't seem like a lot, but you could try turning up the threshold a bit on the limiter and increasing the release time. Since you think that the frequency balance has been changed, maybe you could try putting the saturation before the limiter? Mind you, these are just what I would try, and I am no expert, and the "too much compression" comment is just my opinion. Besides, I listen to mostly jazz and classical music, so my ears are used to more dynamics and less compression.

GrooveNinja wrote:

jinek wrote: Mind you, these are just what I would try, and I am no expert, and the "too much compression" comment is just my opinion. Besides, I listen to mostly jazz and classical music, so my ears are used to more dynamics and less compression.

it's interesting... and what do you thing about minimal music?

jinek wrote: it's interesting... and what do you thing about minimal music?

I don't really know what that is, besides being electronic music. I really like Thievery Corp, Enigma, and Delerium. Unless you mean Schoenberg/Phillip Glass/20th Centrury modern/minimalist classical type stuff. In which case, I hate it.

GrooveNinja wrote:

jinek wrote: it's interesting... and what do you thing about minimal music?

I don't really know what that is, besides being electronic music. I really like Thievery Corp, Enigma, and Delerium. Unless you mean Schoenberg/Phillip Glass/20th Centrury modern/minimalist classical type stuff. In which case, I hate it.

i mean minimal techno...

jinek wrote:

GrooveNinja wrote:

jinek wrote: it's interesting... and what do you thing about minimal music?

I don't really know what that is, besides being electronic music. I really like Thievery Corp, Enigma, and Delerium. Unless you mean Schoenberg/Phillip Glass/20th Centrury modern/minimalist classical type stuff. In which case, I hate it.

i mean minimal techno...

Oh, I don't really listen to it. I'll hear it at a club once in a while, but I find it generally monotonous and not good for dancing.

jinek wrote:Is any way to keep the tonal balance of my mix, while compressing with multiband compressor. May be there is any preset, or formula, or tuning algorythm to do this?

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ugh, I suggested that you drop this here and I didn't get around to it all week, been busy!

yeah, sounds like a pretty well written track, no need for any more effects, IMO. a Mastering Engineer would have some plug ins to polish the track but IMO it doesn't need multiband dynamics, that could kill the song.


good shit mang!!! (hey, how do you say that in Russian?)

Tone Deft wrote:

jinek wrote:Is any way to keep the tonal balance of my mix, while compressing with multiband
good shit mang!!! (hey, how do you say that in Russian?)

thkns,man, i think there is no exect translating to rus, we say good shit))

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Hey Jinek,

sounds punchy, balanced and professional to me, I can't see any need to change things concerning mixing and mastering.
Very good job! Thanks for sharing!

Fluid Karma wrote:Hey Jinek,
sounds punchy, balanced and professional to me, I can't see any need to change things concerning mixing and mastering.
Very good job! Thanks for sharing!

thnks for ur opinion, it's not last version of arrangment..