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Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:03 pm
by Noten-Editor
Hi,
there's missing a SCORE EDITOR. Indispensable for transcription and score printing for professional non-electronic live music bands - THEY STILL EXIST AND ALWAYS WILL!!
Cubase has one, Logic too - why Ableton doesn't? It's missing!
So, please implement (a very good) one.
Greetz
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:13 pm
by webslave
Noten-Editor wrote:Hi,
there's missing a SCORE EDITOR. Indispensable for transcription and score printing for professional non-electronic live music bands - THEY STILL EXIST AND ALWAYS WILL!!
Cubase has one, Logic too - why Ableton doesn't? It's missing!
So, please implement (a very good) one.
Greetz
I would love one as well, except I always get the feeling that Ableton don't really care much for music that doesn't have beats, loops and bleeps. I've been putting together some music for my band and have moved back to Live form Logic as I don't use Logic enough to work quickly in it. Ableton gets me closer to the waveforms quicker so I can nudge real drum beats back into time and that would be great if it wasn't for a lack of better navigation in arrange view - the usual things, no scroll wheel zoom, no comping etc.
I mention this because I really feel that Ableton are missing several tricks by trying to keep things all a bit electronica. With other DAWs chomping at the bit the next version of Live needs to stop adding more ways to filter synths and add in more of the proper controls that folks like me need. Stuff like better compression (multiband please), EQing and reverb - the bread and butter of a good mix. And scores are another staple of many musicans. I'm looking to arrange some horns for a gig we're doing in a few months time and having done all my mixes and recoding in Live it's a shame I have to go elsewhere to do some real music stuff.
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:01 pm
by HeadrickProductions
webslave wrote:Noten-Editor wrote:Hi,
there's missing a SCORE EDITOR. Indispensable for transcription and score printing for professional non-electronic live music bands - THEY STILL EXIST AND ALWAYS WILL!!
Cubase has one, Logic too - why Ableton doesn't? It's missing!
So, please implement (a very good) one.
Greetz
I would love one as well, except I always get the feeling that Ableton don't really care much for music that doesn't have beats, loops and bleeps. I've been putting together some music for my band and have moved back to Live form Logic as I don't use Logic enough to work quickly in it. Ableton gets me closer to the waveforms quicker so I can nudge real drum beats back into time and that would be great if it wasn't for a lack of better navigation in arrange view - the usual things, no scroll wheel zoom, no comping etc.
I mention this because I really feel that Ableton are missing several tricks by trying to keep things all a bit electronica. With other DAWs chomping at the bit the next version of Live needs to stop adding more ways to filtWhy er synths and add in more of the proper controls that folks like me need. Stuff like better compression (multiband please), EQing and reverb - the bread and butter of a good mix. And scores are another staple of many musicans. I'm looking to arrange some horns for a gig we're doing in a few months time and having done all my mixes and recoding in Live it's a shame I have to go elsewhere to do some real music stuff.
The thing I am learning is that live (and all DAW's) can only do so much. Since it distinguishes it self in it's ability to be used as a very effective performance tool, I feel that if they spread themselves any thinner that it will result in more issues. I would love for live to be a one stop shop for everything, but that is just not a reality. I am a musician so I understand your frustration. The way I first heard about live was a producer explaining to me that he brainstorms in live and then drops his tracks into tools to finish. It will be hard for a program to run the distance from live performance (smart mixing, "the bridge", session view) all the way to the best DAW to record,master, and produce final cuts.
just my take on things
are there not a notation software that has rewire
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Sibelius6.html
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:32 am
by KrisM
I'd rather buy Sibelius, Finale, or even Cubase or Logic than have Ableton add notation to Live.
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:49 am
by HeadrickProductions
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:30 pm
by re.mark
KrisM wrote:I'd rather buy Sibelius, Finale, or even Cubase or Logic than have Ableton add notation to Live.
This.
Live - to me - is a performance tool first and foremost; and its features should reflect so.
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:09 am
by neyko
I'd love to see this feature, but as Ableton does not have it you can use Finale which costs about 50 US dollars.
Export the track as a midi file and simply import it into Finale.
This feature would undoubtedly add to the price of Ableton. This may be a straw man argument, but might even lead to bugs. (Is straw man the correct term in this case?)
Anyway, importing an Ableton midi file into Finale works well.
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:58 pm
by pid
this has been out for quite a while now:
http://www.computermusicnotation.com/co ... page_id=34
one of the great things about maxforlive is that many feature requests with fewer humans behind them can now be realised anyway.
Re: Score-Editor MISSING
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:13 pm
by neyko
Actually Finale Songwriter is 49 US dollars.
And it looks as though Finale Notepad for $10 might do the trick
http://www.finalemusic.com/NotePad/Feat ... fault.aspx
Feature : Import Format 1 MIDI files.
