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anyone have a link to the henke video where he explains how he sets up his live sets with 8 distinct tracks, such as bass, kick, hats, etc? thx.

This one?:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 361152922#

Alternatively it was the first result here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=robert+henke+workshop+video
I love that thing.

for the first response, thank you

for the second, eat me

*hugs*

question: What I'm trying to figure out is that while he had 8 tracks total, say the bass drum track - is that really a grouped track, where if you unfold it, there are actually say 10 instruments, each lined up with a different song?

I suppose my question is essentially how do you just have one bass drum channel, but multiple bass drums for multiple songs? The easy way is to have it all be audio clips, and each audio clip will be different per song. But if I wanted the flexibility that Henke showed, say with midi clips, what's the best way to do that?

You just need a rack, or drum rack with a different Bass Drum device on each note. Drum Rack is easiest because it automatically sets each device to it's own midi note. Then each it's as simple as each songs clips triggering the note with the appropriate Bass Drum on it for that song. You can even have macros for all the different devices mapped to the same macro knobs. It appears this is how Robert Henke was doing it.

^yeah, I figured that was one solution, but I didn't know if group tracks also did the trick. In any case, thx for the explanation of how he did it - much appreciated.

nebulae wrote:^yeah, I figured that was one solution, but I didn't know if group tracks also did the trick. In any case, thx for the explanation of how he did it - much appreciated.

Group tracks can a similar thing, but would be unnecessary for something like a Kick drum that only needs one midi note. It's more useful to have a rack because then you can map parameters of the devices to the macro knobs. With group tracks you can not. Unless you use Max for Live. For example, Hoffman2k's Clip Mapper device, used as audio effect on the group track, would allow you to do that. It would still be needlessly complicated though because to edit the clips, you'd have to open the group track and find the specific clip where that songs sequences are, rather than just open the main track's clip.

So yeah, for this you're best bet is just something like: Song1 kick is on pad C1, Song2 kick is on C#1, Song3 Kick is on D1.. etc., all in a drum rack. All devices parameters mapped to same macros.

^ right, right, makes total sense.

I'm assuming Operator is coded smartly enough so that if I have 10 of them in one drum rack in the Kick channel, that the CPU won't get used unless that Operator is being triggered?

nebulae wrote:^ right, right, makes total sense.

I'm assuming Operator is coded smartly enough so that if I have 10 of them in one drum rack in the Kick channel, that the CPU won't get used unless that Operator is being triggered?

yup. Operator's cool like dat.

ok, excellent, thanks again

btw, when you rack up a bunch of operators for drums, remember to set the number of voices per operator to 1. Save you some CPU that's really not needed for drums.

yeah, good tip - thx