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akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:13 pm
by TEKTRO
Does anybody know how to change the colours of the buttons on the apc40, if so could you share that information with me

thanks
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:59 pm
by HeadrickProductions
with the LP you just put in a velocity plug on the midi track that you send back to the LP and tweak in to change the color.
I've been playing around with routing the apc 40 as an external instr to send midi back to the apc from live. No need for max for live with the stuff I'm trying to do but I am guessing it would make stuff alot easier). I'm trying to do the same stuff that I saw some vids show you can do with apc 40 without MFL.
I have not tried changing the colors yet but it should work in the same way as with the LP. I'll try today and get back with ya. There should be some folks that know in the forum.
The launchpad is much easier when it comes to midi routing, but it causes sound to clip

when lots of midi rounting is going on
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:44 pm
by TEKTRO
HeadrickProductions wrote:with the LP you just put in a velocity plug on the midi track that you send back to the LP and tweak in to change the color.
I've been playing around with routing the apc 40 as an external instr to send midi back to the apc from live. No need for max for live with the stuff I'm trying to do but I am guessing it would make stuff alot easier). I'm trying to do the same stuff that I saw some vids show you can do with apc 40 without MFL.
I have not tried changing the colors yet but it should work in the same way as with the LP. I'll try today and get back with ya. There should be some folks that know in the forum.
The launchpad is much easier when it comes to midi routing, but it causes sound to clip

when lots of midi rounting is going on
ok thank you send me a pm if you can

Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:51 pm
by H20nly
now you're cooking with butter

Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:08 pm
by TEKTRO
H20nly wrote:now you're cooking with butter

haha damn you , you gave people ideas in my last post

Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:13 pm
by H20nly

sorry I couldn't give you one
I don't have an APC but I clicked on that link.. first reaction... type something crazy... I don't have to spread
that idea on
this forum...
good luck!
oh and...fwiw I was trying to help.
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:15 pm
by Tone Deft
HeadrickProductions wrote:it causes sound to clip

when lots of midi rounting is going on
not true. something's weird about your setup.
I think you'll find that you can play these games with the LP or APC but when you get back to making music keeping track of tracks that tweak what's sent to the devices isn't worth the time and effort.
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:28 pm
by HeadrickProductions
TEKTRO wrote:HeadrickProductions wrote:with the LP you just put in a velocity plug on the midi track that you send back to the LP and tweak in to change the color.
I've been playing around with routing the apc 40 as an external instr to send midi back to the apc from live. No need for max for live with the stuff I'm trying to do but I am guessing it would make stuff alot easier). I'm trying to do the same stuff that I saw some vids show you can do with apc 40 without MFL.
I have not tried changing the colors yet but it should work in the same way as with the LP. I'll try today and get back with ya. There should be some folks that know in the forum.
The launchpad is much easier when it comes to midi routing, but it causes sound to clip

when lots of midi rounting is going on
ok thank you send me a pm if you can

I tried to just stick on a velocity plug on the midi track no luck....I also tried to stick it before the external instr and it did not work....Obviously there is a way to change the colors because the acp 40 does in the standard setup....
Even though this is not that important to me YET, it would be nice to know the answer to setup things like differentiating notes in more complex setup once I get around to it.....
the reason I am not doing a PM is because I am hoping the folks who know the answer will take pity and fill us in
The problem is some folks are making money on this type of information so it might be harder to come by......
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:41 pm
by HeadrickProductions
Tone Deft wrote:HeadrickProductions wrote:it causes sound to clip

when lots of midi rounting is going on
not true. something's weird about your setup.
I think you'll find that you can play these games with the LP or APC but when you get back to making music keeping track of tracks that tweak what's sent to the devices isn't worth the time and effort.
I think you helped me before about this.....It is not necessary and I've got a good sense of timing (playing music since 5...so I'm in the 1/4 or a century club....damn I'm gettin OLD), but it would be nice to be able to see visually what is going on as well as be able to hear. Sometimes I've got so many things going on that it would be nice to have the visual metronome idea when beat synching on the tables as well to loops, trying to create real bass rifts and drum beats, and using pads with midi slices....all without a interuption of flow.
I just need to practice more...but it is still a bummer that I can't do what my brain can come up with
This is where mononome probably out perform the new controllers, I dont have one so I can't say for sure....
Can anyone comment who owns a mononome??
Thanks for the advice
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:47 pm
by Tone Deft
HeadrickProductions wrote:The problem is some folks are making money on this type of information so it might be harder to come by......
nah, people don't roll like that.
yeah, tried the same thing with the APC and LP. the velocity plug in affects the LP's LED colors but not the APC. strange.
make a feature request in the Feature Request forum. no clue if they'd ever get around to it.
edit -
Headrick saw your last post.
I have a monome, those are single color LEDs only but it would be MUCH easier to change out those LEDs. no clue what the monome people might make next, it is cool to see them still selling out devices.
if I was able to sit and watch you in action it would probably be completely obvious why you need this. you never can tell exactly what the other guy is up to, how they work, all that. we tend to impose our own work flows on other people, it can't be helped, there's a million ways to use this software.
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:51 pm
by HeadrickProductions
Since I just looked at the amount of posts you've had, you just might be the person to ask. I've seen some vids (not sure which ones but I'll try to track them down) where I know I've seen at least the pan led's set to a different color. Now they could have opened up the APC and changed somethings but I doubt it. There has to be a way since the apc has the ability to use orange, red, blue, and green. It might not be simple but that has to be a way, just might take some midi routing boarding on insanity.
Maybe folks are just using boome's or MFL
Glad to hear that folks are not stingy with info........Is there a better forum or even place in this forum to ask about midi routing questions that are not MFL?
Thanks again for the help brother........
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:15 am
by S4racen
Ah man if you just did a little work you'd find all the answers.....
Google, APC Hacking Guide Create Digital Music.....
Plus there's about twenty posts on it at least another half dowzen over at the bomes forums and then you go acussing people of not sharing cause their making money of it, that's pretty tight man!
Cheers
D
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:40 am
by Tone Deft
Headrick - I highly doubt the pan encoders can be anything but green. out of the box there's no way to make them anything but green. I don't know why Akai would pay extra for tri-color LEDs for ALL those encoder LEDs and not have them work out of the box. got a link?
S4Racen seems to be leading the field with these tweaks. I don't spend much time on these kinds of things, I don't play out so I don't have the need you have, I just play.
S4 - maybe toss the guy a bone with a few links? a few months ago we were asking the same questions.

Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:33 am
by HeadrickProductions
S4racen wrote:Ah man if you just did a little work you'd find all the answers.....
Google, APC Hacking Guide Create Digital Music.....
Plus there's about twenty posts on it at least another half dowzen over at the bomes forums and then you go acussing people of not sharing cause their making money of it, that's pretty tight man!
Cheers
D
Not meaning to offend at all please ignore that comment....I had posted a few questions and got no answers. Tone deaf let me know that is not the way it is

. Thanks for letting me know what to google.
I was trying to do all these things without boome's or MFL, if I could.
It seems that I am getting feed back so thank you for helping me out. That is just the only reason I thought I was getting no response about different midi rounting because some kids are selling templates..
Thank you for correcting me and I will not think that way anymore....I'll check out the boome's forum
Once again forgive me.....
Re: akai apc40 colour change
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:56 pm
by S4racen
Ok, i assume you've looked at the bible that is the super hacking guide.... (link here in case anyones search brings up this thread)
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/1 ... handshake/
What you're asking is possible without bomes but you'll still need to use a third party piece of software, you simply cant achieve what you're looking to do without a secondary utitlity.....
There was a fantastic thread on changing colours on here for colorblind people you might use that as a starting point....
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... colorblind
Apart from that there's not much else i can suggest, the Akai does what it says on the tin and is supplied without an editor so you're stuck with it unless you can invest time and money in creating a template for it......
Cheers
D