sound quality

[conker]

ableton, just does not sound right. I try playing songs through it and it just sounds reall funky. I use a usb cable going threw a real nice stero and i just dont understand why, but the better speakers i use the more i can tell that it just doesnt sound right. : (

[dum]

[re.mark]

warp

[Da hand]

it just sounds reall funky

...and that is a problem? It's all about the funk baby!

[lapieuvre]

Warping is an art!

There are tricks you'll get as it goes. Like knowing the real BPM of the songs,

-Start by putting the song in arrangement view

-Make sure it follows the click all the way through, unwarped

-Consolidate

Now you got a warped song without any compromise in sound quality

[leedsquietman]

the OP sounds like a noob.

read the manual and the ableton audio paper which explains how warp and other functions can affect output.

How much experience do you have OP ?? Do you know how to mix - leaving headroom, not clipping the busses, not over compressing/limiting ???

Because if you know what you're doing, Live's audio engine sounds as good as Logic, Cubase, Protools, Reaper, Sonar etc.

[3phase]

the OP sounds like a noob.

read the manual and the ableton audio paper which explains how warp and other functions can affect output.

How much experience do you have OP ?? Do you know how to mix - leaving headroom, not clipping the busses, not over compressing/limiting ???

Because if you know what you're doing, Live's audio engine sounds as good as Logic, Cubase, Protools, Reaper, Sonar etc.

does it? since when?

[leedsquietman]

Since Live 7. So long as warping is off, and you use the same settings and don't use internal plugins (but using the same 3rd party plugins at the same settings is fine).

Null tests do actually null. I've done blind test mixes in Reaper, Cubase, Live and Logic and virtually everyone agreed this point. Of the tiny minority of people who thought they heard a preference, when asked to guess which DAW produced the result of the test file they liked best, every response was incorrect.

[Tone Deft]

[3phase]

ok since live 7.. and is it guarantied that warping is off as it is described in tha manual for imported long audiofiles? or is ir rather like that , that once live has tried to determine the original tempo warping is on even when you select and insert the song speed by hand?


i had the strong impression on earlier versons of 8... might be curred might be a hard to reproduce bug... dont use live so often in the moment to really tell if its gone now..

[Tone Deft]

there's a menu option to select warp on or off for imported samples.

the people at Ableton have stated that when a song is at its original bpm that no artifacts will be created unless you're in a complex warp mode.

what is your complaint?

[leisuremuffin]

hey, anybody fancy an argument?


.lm.

[Tone Deft]

lmfao!!

me? nah, never.

[3phase]

complain? nothing.. live sounds like live..as long you dont use it for mastering or acoustic productions it dont matters much...

i just wonder if with all this hundreds of L8 bugs that one really can be sure that this part of the program was the only one without any bugs..especially seen the tendecy of the L8 bugs to be pretty computer model related..

just in relation that the sound qestion has popped up again after quite a while of silence...

Its strange how many people in berlin belife that ableton life dont sound as good as other daw´s... Almost anybody i know thinks that, i am actually one of the guys that is more on the "its not so bad" side...but never would say that every daw sounds the same.

Live defentkly had problems
Not so long ago you even had a degeneration when you switched the crossfader to a channel... not realy trustworthy the mixbus of L6..

But the statement of the perfect ableton soundengine was proclaimed allready..
and its the same people people with the same arguments that tell the same story now..

And than all this funny fact sheets .. just a few days ago an ableton offical had to tell that they forgot to mention some problems there, even when they was aware of the problem at the time the fact sheets was written... nobody is perfect.. but hard to forget something that is not perfect in a statement about perfection...

Its difficult to know for certain in such a situation..
I do my edits in logic dont want to risk my audiofiles because of not realy trustworthy statements..

Maybe it is ok now.. maybe not... it defently wasnt ok in the younger past...

[SubFunk]

if you learn how to produce and mix you can make out of shit gold.