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Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:58 pm
by dorsch
i like it. good idea.
most important point for me would be the exact date ...
but as far as i can see 10 - 12 september could work
looking foreward
dorsch
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:04 pm
by heavensdaw
dorsch wrote:i like it. good idea.
most important point for me would be the exact date ...
but as far as i can see 10 - 12 september could work
looking foreward
dorsch
Hi dorsch,
This date is provisional atm.. In fact it may be better to have it on the weekend before or after as Pepezabala has a workshop arranged in Barcelona on the 10th with Phat Conductor.. But that could be good also as PC is in da hood.. I'll PM them both to see how things can be sorted..
Right (nitty gritty) costs..
Here's an exact copy of the costs that I mailed Ableton HQ .. (Remember they were thinking of putting something pretty big together)
I have made some enquires on some of the main costs to hire the needed infrastructure.
All based on 3 day hire and a 250 person attendance figure.
Generator 30kva Silent pure sinewave. 40,50€+ 5% insurance plus 16% tax per day
Hire of junction box and cables for generator 10€ + 5% insurance plus 16% tax per day.
Price of transport 38,58 per hour ( 4 hrs ) Plus tax @ 16% (there would be a 600€ plus tax deposit on this item)
1 Marquee 10x30 = 300 m2 3,338,00€
Optional flooring 1,535,00€ Plus tax @16% including transport.
Portaloos 5 cabins including transport 725,00€ plus 16% tax
250 seats 330€ plus 16% including transport
4000 watt Wharfdale PA system plus onstage monitors with engineer and lights 500 euros all inc.
Workforce. I x electrician (personal friend) 1 day set up 1 day take down 250€ all inc
2 general helpers parking/security etc 4 days @ 80€ per day each.
There would also be diesel for the generator to add.. it would run on 'red' diesel.. I would estimate the cost of around 3 ltrs hour @ 0.70€ per liter.
Obviously we wouldn't need anything like the amount of infrastructure in the above quote..
But there are somethings that we would need regardless of attendance. ie Generator, PA and lights(this is a good friend of mine and I'm pretty sure he'll come down on price), seats, tables, some added helper/s (1or 2) and some kind of covering (what kind would still depend on attendance though)..
So this gives an idea..
Hd
Hd
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:10 pm
by nebulae
dorsch wrote:Portaloos 5 cabins including transport 725,00€ plus 16% tax
Expensive shit.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:28 pm
by heavensdaw
nebulae wrote:dorsch wrote:Portaloos 5 cabins including transport 725,00€ plus 16% tax
Expensive shit.
Thank fully I already have these set up!
fully working bio loos!
here's another view of the bar (to help take your mind off all that shit!)
Hd
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:48 pm
by funky shit
the 10th is my birthday
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:55 pm
by nebulae
This maybe a little too kinky to share, but I really want to take a shit while Rave is taking a shit. Shitting together in bio-sync with Rave. That's what I want.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:04 pm
by heavensdaw
nebulae wrote:This maybe a little too kinky to share, but I really want to take a shit while Rave is taking a shit. Shitting together in bio-sync with Rave. That's what I want.
Wtf
Hd
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:34 pm
by 8O
Google Maps reckons just 10 days to get from Berlin, via the Genoa ferry, to Barcelona...
walking!
Also: do you have wifi there? So we can get our 8.1.3b29 beta update which expires in the middle of the weekend, and also so that we can sit around the camp-fire refreshing the forum instead of having to talk to each other in real-life, like...
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:54 pm
by tw1nstates
I don't exist in real life so I am fucked. . .
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:40 am
by djgroovy
Hey Hd!
Wow, glad to see the idea is really taking off!
You know i'm all over that if it happens, whatever date it is, and i can help you with anything you need... well, except anything to do with the toilets, especially if Neb and Rave are in there.
Woot.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:15 am
by Rave
nebulae wrote:This maybe a little too kinky to share, but I really want to take a shit while Rave is taking a shit. Shitting together in bio-sync with Rave. That's what I want.
We could perform a duet too under the name Bio-sync.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:26 am
by djgroovy
Bio-Stync more like it.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:43 pm
by nebulae
I realize that I've started a tangent that HD may not appreciate. But it's just that image of two side-by-side toilets. It made me get all romantic and think of Rave.
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:48 pm
by Rave
djgroovy wrote:Bio-Stync more like it.
That sounds about right
Re: An (Un) Official Ableton Live Camp
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:00 pm
by heavensdaw
8O wrote:Google Maps reckons just 10 days to get from Berlin, via the Genoa ferry, to Barcelona... walking!
haha! what about cycling? that should get it down to what.. 5 days?
8O wrote:Also: do you have wifi there? So we can get our 8.1.3b29 beta update which expires in the middle of the weekend, and also so that we can sit around the camp-fire refreshing the forum instead of having to talk to each other in real-life, like...
As for wifi ... what d'you think I live out in the sticks or summat!? deffo.. will need a 'real time' thread happening, feeding news and reports back to the world of the interwebz
djgroovy wrote:
Wow, glad to see the idea is really taking off!
You know i'm all over that if it happens, whatever date it is, and i can help you with anything you need... well, except anything to do with the toilets, especially if Neb and Rave are in there.
Woot.
Hey cheers bro.. It's about time this idea got going!
Thanks for the offer of help mate... Don't worry 'toilet duty' is reserved for the meaty duo!
Hd