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Re: The red light

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:17 pm
by Tone Deft
renders are produced from data in Arrange view.

the red light means what you're hearing is different than what will be rendered.

Re: The red light

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:54 pm
by borg
are you using an external app that has cc data being sent to live, or are there midi clips playing in arrangement that send controller data to other tracks (through IAC or pc equivalent)?

Re: The red light

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:25 pm
by Tone Deft
it can be a subtle tweak you did to an envelope somewhere but don't see it.

see the red dots on the Session view GUI controls? those are things that are controlled in Arrange view. if there's a red dot on something that shouldn't have a control click on it and hit delete. that clear the entire control envelope for that control.

Re: The red light

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:10 pm
by borg
funken wrote:fuck knows how people did stuff before the internet.
People had an Atari ST, hardware, and read books... :D

Re: The red light

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:12 pm
by borg
another guess... you have a parameter that has an envelope in the clip AND automation in arrangement.

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:32 am
by longjohns
Tone Deft wrote:renders are produced from data in Arrange view.

the red light means what you're hearing is different than what will be rendered.
this is not true

renders are produced from what will be playing, session or arrange

the red light means that what you will hear is different from what is contained in the arrangement. (whether simply playing back, or rendering)

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:34 am
by longjohns
Tone Deft wrote:
the red light means what you're hearing is different than what will be rendered if you were to click the red button just before rendering
fixed

?

;)

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:35 am
by longjohns
often a "leaky" controller can cause the BTA button to light up, if you can't figure out why it is happening

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:42 am
by Tone Deft
:oops: I see some manual reading in my near future. thanks man, you've taught me much over the years. now if only I can learn your calm demeanor. ;)

I learned something today!

well, two things, that and that banging a bike wheel sideways on the ground is an acceptable way to straighten a bent rim, don't do big adjustments with the spokes.

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:04 am
by longjohns
Tone Deft wrote: you've taught me much over the years.
likewise. actually i thought about getting your advice lately when i was trying to fix the soldering on a garmin gps. damn, that's some tiny stuff in there!!

definitely was helped by the "add more solder", before wicking it off.

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:39 am
by UKRuss
The key is to click the red light so it is off, listen through the arranegemrnt. If you like it, make sure the red light is off and render. If not, record your changes and go again.

Re: The red light

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:36 pm
by Dennis DeSantis
The red (Back to Arrangement) light means "something about the state of the Arrangement has changed, so what you're hearing on playback is not identical to what's in the Arrangement."

This doesn't necessarily mean that you've done something in the Session View. For example, adjusting a mixer parameter - even in the Arrangement View - that already has automation data will also cause the Back to Arrangement button to light up.

If you find that this is lighting up even though you're sure you've touched nothing, a jumpy MIDI controller is a likely problem.

Best,