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...or so rumor has it. Bye Bye M*fcker
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041111/D869FQIO0.html
 TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND

Does Arafat have AIDS?
With still no public diagnosis, some suggesting HIV may be cause
Posted: November 4, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Aaron Klein
With doctors claiming they have still not diagnosed Yasser Arafat despite a week of hospitalization and extensive testing, some commentators have been suggesting the PLO leader may be suffering from AIDS.

Arafat's condition suddenly deteriorated last night and he was placed in intensive care at the Paris military hospital where he was brought for treatment Friday, Palestinian officials said.

Arafat has been ill for more than two weeks. Doctors say they've performed extensive tests, and still don't know what he has. Initial blood work performed in the West Bank revealed a low blood platelet count – a sign of a weakened immune system. In addition to cancer, which doctors have ruled out, the low count could be attributed to bleeding ulcers, colitis, liver disease, lupus, HIV, or a host of other diseases. Ulcers and colitis have been ruled out, as well, it is believed.

Some have been speculating Arafat might be suffering from HIV/AIDS.

The homosexual site, 365Gay.com, which deals regularly with issues related to HIV/AIDS, ran a piece yesterday reminding readers that, for several years, it has been suggested Arafat is bisexual, and could have contracted the disease.

"If suggestions that Arafat has AIDS are true, it is doubtful it would be made public," wrote 365Gay.com European bureau chief Malcolm Thornberry.

National Review diarist David Frum suggested in his column this week Arafat contracted AIDS from homosexual sex with his bodyguards.

Ion Pacepa, who was deputy chief of Romanian foreign intelligence under the Ceaucescu regime and who defected to the West in 1978, says in his memoirs the Romania government bugged Arafat and had recordings of the Arab leader in orgies with his security detail.

Various Israeli security sources have in the past suggested publicly Arafat might be homosexual. They've claimed Arafat's former personal driver – a Mossad double agent – used to find teenage boys to bring back to the PLO leader. His wife, Suha, mostly lived abroad and rarely saw her husband.

is this about whether he was gay or whether he had aids and whats your relation to the deceased?

Secondly HIV does not = Homosexual ,let alone bisexual .
There are some 54.5 million heterosexuals globally who can attest to that simple fact !.
Don't particularly like the inference in the post and the tone in which it's used myself.
Then again that's another story altogether.

sps1 : I do know you're most probably a (max.) 15 year old white redneck posting here to create some turmoil ... so I should refrain of making comments on your posts ... but on the other side it's horrendous to see that youngsters like yourself are still susceptible for disinformation like you are spewing around .... this in times of internet etc ... your bibleclass does a good job I have the impression .... maybe you should start skipping it ...

He was queer? SFW?

-Paws

[quote="sps1"]...or so rumor has it. Bye Bye M*fcker
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041111/D869FQIO0.html
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This is really disgusting. Any culture, the whole civilised world respect the dead. This is not a bad taste what this "sp" is doing, he crossed all the borders of decency, keep it to your friends or family if you have any but it is out of place here, it is out of place anywhere.
If being homo or bi sexual is something negative then that was the least of the negative could be spoken about Arafat (is it your own problem ofyour sexual identity makes you write ?). He is gone, peace to his soul, gone is gone, he left his mark in history books for good or bad, the life is over so leave him and the rest of the world alone. If you had something against him you missed your chance to shoot him though I doubt if you are man enough " en todo los sentidos de la palabra".
So, out of respect for your own ancestors and the rest of humanity cut it, find yourself something more gratifying then spamming this forum.

please let this stupid thread die.
though, you're free to PM sps1 with insults. i wish he had AIDS (sps1, not arafat).

Yes let this thread die... gay bashing comes back ones in a while...

please stop this shit

Don't feed the troll (he said, inadvertantly feeding the troll.)

I only posted this to simply state that:
1) Arafat is dead which I'm happy about. He was an evil man who IMO doesn't deserve any respect.
2) That he may have died with Aids and he quite possibly may have been a closet homosexual, and that is something that the arab press(and world) does not want to get out.
The point of this post was not to gay bash. I have some gay friends and they are just regular people like anyone else. Differences in sexual preference is not problem for most people, I just wish that Arafats alleged homosexuality(and all homosexuals) would be tolerated or embraced throughout the Arab world. The tolerance and understanding of homosexuals could if fact help bring our two societies together for a common cause which is human rights and respect for all people in all walks of life, regardless of race, gender, sexual preferance, age, religion, ect...
Instead his possible homosexuality and fight with aids(allegedly) will probably be buried with Arafat so as not to upset the apple cart in the region. Why can't the Arab press dig up and release the truth of the matter? Is it because of a deep seeded hatred for homosexuals in that part of the world

See what happens when you start discussing things other than music software on a music software forum?

Now we've got name-calling, insults, invectives, etc. etc. and all this forum should be about is helping each other with using software to make music.

I now have to scroll through many messages just to find something that's related to learning more about Ableton Live.

I would also imagine that if ppl post these inflammatory messages the chances of them getting help on software questions from those they pissed off is rather small.

It's all sad, really.

i love it when people say
"i'm not racist, i have black friends"
or "i'm not homophobic, i have some gay friends"

shut your fucking face unkle fuckerrrrrrr

I don't know, I like you Adam J and you're totally gay

well well sps1 is revea;led in all his glory a dishonest israeli who cannot hide his hypocrisy and mean spirit.........long live palestine...at least they can cook....lol