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Experiment with randomness

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:06 pm
by deHaan
Hi there

http://www.bandbase.com/kravlegaarden/T ... ge-planer/

I've been experimenting a bit with different kinds of randomness in Live, which I haven't done much before. It ended up with this strange ambient and long track.

It's nothing very serious, but comments are welcome :)

Best regards Nikolaj

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:26 pm
by soultwist
I was going to say it's a bit too long, but just noticed you did warn us :D

But I gave it a listen, and I quite like it. I like ambient stuff like this once in a while. A friend of mine does similar stuff - and this almost sounded familiar, made me feel at home...or something. :lol:
I know he makes MaxMSP patches and randomizes his banks of samples. How did you make this track? Care to share your workflow?

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:48 pm
by deHaan
Has your friend got any music online?

All is made with Ableton's synths (I've actually used all of the synths in Suite 8 ), Simpler, and Ableton's audio and midi effects, no plug-ins are used.

I've used different MIDI effects to make many of the instruments play random notes at a random timing (not beat synced), and in the en of the chain I used "scale" to force the notes into a C minor scale.

I used follow action to make the drums switch randomly between several clips.

That's pretty much how the track is made :)

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:21 am
by tlennon
Hi Nikolaj. Okay...this time I won't say WTF like I did with your Goat Market post. Now I get what you're into including your post of 'Can Live play notes at a random rhythm?'. Understanding what you are doing adds new meaning to what I hear. There is a lot of interesting stuff going on in your track. Listening with an open mind the randomness had a certain appeal. Keep doing what you do. Thanks for sharing again.

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 7:38 pm
by deHaan
Thank you, and I'm glad to avoid the WTF this time :)

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:40 pm
by soultwist
No, surprisingly nothing available online from him, sorry. Thanks for the insight about your track. Definitely will try something like that and report back here :D

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:59 pm
by zenadine
great stuff...I really like how you used only Ableton's synths which really helps show case them...all to often I open a softsynth or stick in a hardware one rather than look at what my own DAW can offer..

I enjoyed it...length didnt bother me

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:06 am
by malutki
live-ticker:


-only at 0:34 and liking this already!
looking forward to the next 8:00...

-nice inclusion of vocals..

-yeah, this is great...

-3:40 now...

-like how you are messing with the 4/4 kickdrum

-have you considered automating reverb times to add varying subtle swathes in the background?
maybe it doesn't even need that

-hm, over already? (take that as a good sign & compliment!)


thanks for sharing & good night.

Re: Experiment with randomness

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:53 pm
by deHaan
Thank you all :)

@ malutki: I like your idea about automating the reverb time. Actually I did something like that - I've put a distortion effect on my main reverb bus, and from about 5:55 to 6:16 the dry/wet is turned from 0 % to 70 % and then suddenly back to 0 %. Kind of the same idea :)