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Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 9:02 am**

Hi,

I was asking this question over at the C74 forum as well. Whenever I hit save in my Max for Live patch some parameters reset themself to 100, which is a bit annoying.
I found out that it seems to be a Max for Live problem only. When I copy>paste my patch, or just the affected parts of it, to a new Max patch the error won't happen.

Here's the original discussion.

And here's my patch (just the affected bits...)

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----------begin_max5_patcher----------
863.3oc4X0zbZCCD8r4WgGesDFKA1.8V6g1K4ePlLLFr.TprjGIYJoYx+8pO
rASPFbH7Ql1KF6URq18su8YgeoiWvT1ZjHv+q9O3648RGOOiIsAuxm8BxRVO
ijHLSKfh9Ma5SAcsCIQqkFyBeANKmfxXonIDFKeBAQWHWVMQZQFqPRPRiWBK
sNmQkB7ePZafvdUlySjyVhoKlvQyj1fazX0n9vw.8Of9lm.i5E5+X4Zvol3P
Ea20uePM+SSxL9O3abbBw+6LRZsfBSqhIf11qc5nuz8iAF4bLUdgADXzPMFD
MvhHQwGDQfWMDoHaJh6NIgu+jbjMICis+rWNZ8t74bjcAAJfOnqevzD5h.mH
A3FyM3uKdA3Dfr9ZTZPbYmxniiYtApvSAnBu4TFvHSh2evYix.GcsnLSKjRF
8vLAGobroFCglLFFVcs4Lt4Tc3kl9K8m5O+rUq6aSVfsjC6EcrZsIyUE64DV
hzID.FdiEH9x4RI.DZemosGnMnitSvIlbRuPEdBXBAuB0SPvoaEDVkv2ri+.
SQ92qDM8ueGQybNSxzIxlYJwpa1LJRfnxDIlQq21XvE6UKFoeW5l72M4TWll
wHLt0Gg8.gfwwft56fp2BO1b2PXz.0c0cmyBTz1N1ww6EA6KTuOyMOgqRYIh
OQk6SIn5TEFGWk10MWqvF6lLWZTjrBkNIQJ4XkxDZ6chxJXYITWiHEH17JyU
1qGdhbDJkfypcZmcGWhxs6dHvwvn04LJhZPNPOWNnfhkB4yVH.5XBYJllcCB
c5fLEDnG+tll.VsCJFeYkupDryTpJVGX46Wn1EGVx3x2P3qy0eiKWgE3Ru4L
mXoUYMbnyjJgRYksFa1UWaEgQWbr9v81ZKf5FMIX5uzNTzDRncf5PRMCmyYM
FsLtVAogUZXJ1kZGzHRU8y4Uw5mblPb1jrFXDLrWukRV1SbbSjr.Q+mpYcXQ
qVoYEEdNTsBOppUIo+SmrUSMi+KoaYJvJUI5a+rNltYs8cEyDrB9rpt0pC6s
8saAoHgDS2zQ9v1OwRsIsDmlhn0+PFY3zbl57jkAg+iNkVaaLE2hPRevcmgD
3hDRvgsIlttvTqJc5+N60Llh9H3zko1YnJf1DSfqGN8IjOo+FPGWJ.9ILl.e
fXR8vqc9KDhEd1C
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

And last but not least the patch as a zip file.

Thanks in advance.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 10:40 am**

I can confirm this behavior and have seen something similar with my patches, also without send/receive.

The Max editor in Live seems to have an intermediate state when saving a patch, where objects are initialized with the low value of their range.
Only when closing the patch, the values are overwritten by the stored values from the Live set.
(You can verify this by dragging your number boxes into the visible area.)

I guess this behavior is required for technical reasons.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 1:04 pm**

I don't believe this can be a desired behaviour. And I can't think of a technical reason why this should be the case. Do you think it might help sending a bug report to C74?

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 1:53 pm**

Yes, from the users view it's certainly unwanted behavior and as such worth to discuss with C74 support.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 4:36 pm**

I can't reproduce this.

Try sending it in to support, maybe Ben can

-A

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2010 4:52 pm**

Alright. Thanks, guys.

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