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How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:02 pm
by audio007
hi! i am quite new using ableton.

i recorded some long percussion / live played files...each files has about 2-3 min. how can i cut them into SYNCED / IN TIME loops ? each length should be 4-8 kicks.

please give me some advices - first i load it into live of course...but then - how to start ? if i use warp this is a problem. right ? cause its not for example a 16 bars loop...its a 3min recording....

i am really not sure how to start...

thanx!

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:29 pm
by Tamar UK
Easiest way would be to roughly chop the 16 bar section you wish to use in arranger view and then past it into an empty clip slot in session view. there you can set the start and end points and original tempo and adjust or add warp markers till its spot on.
The Live reference manual explains it all in detail.

Live will still attempt to warp a 3 minute uncut recording if you set it up to do so. Does a good job most of the time if the bpm is constant throughout most of song.

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:58 pm
by audio007
hi! thank you tamar. but please could you go more into detail ? i really dont know hoe to start.

i insert the e.g. 4 min file into the arrange section. but how to "chop it into different 16 bar sections" ? without warping, right ? and should i just cut at "1" and "16" - without checking how it sounds ?

and if i cut this all into "16 bars" pieces - i should load them into the session view...

sorry its my first time trying this in live....and in the manual - i cant find this problem solved (how i have to handle such a long recoring best)...

thank you !

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:40 am
by gibson_ewok
Hey,
Go here http://mrbillstunes.com/services_tutorials.php and watch Tutorial 13 : Warping multi track drums.

Cheers,
Bill
www.mrbillstunes.com

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:57 am
by thefinger
just drop the audio into a clip box in an audio track, duplicate it for however many loops you need, and st your loop points for each clip...

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:38 am
by audio007
gibson_ewok wrote:Hey,
Go here http://mrbillstunes.com/services_tutorials.php and watch Tutorial 13 : Warping multi track drums.

Cheers,
Bill
http://www.mrbillstunes.com
hi bill! thank you. one question to this:
i have about 20 tracks / recording...not really a multi rec. like in your example. one rec. was 5 min / the other 1 min...sometimes we had a 30 sec stop in the recording...so its all not in time from the beginning to the end....but every time when he started playing its again "in time" (not really of course - that why i have to correct it) to the metronom....

how should i start here ? should i take the "longest rec track" , set all warp markers like you did in your first track and then copy these markers to the rest ?

what do you think how to start here ?

thank you!

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:36 am
by audio007
thefinger wrote:just drop the audio into a clip box in an audio track, duplicate it for however many loops you need, and st your loop points for each clip...
hi! thank you. please could you explain this a little bit more detailed ? i dont understand that exactly. i should drop the whole file into one clip box in the SESSIOn view ? and then...?

Re: How to cut a long/live perc recording in IN TIME loops ?

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:36 am
by gibson_ewok
i have about 20 tracks / recording...not really a multi rec. like in your example. one rec. was 5 min / the other 1 min...sometimes we had a 30 sec stop in the recording...so its all not in time from the beginning to the end....but every time when he started playing its again "in time" (not really of course - that why i have to correct it) to the metronom....
Ok so what you do is take the longest track and highlight everything on all channels at the same length as this track.
Hit Cmd + J (Ctrl + J on windows) to consolidate all the files and make them all the same length (this process will only work if all samples are the same length.
After that you should be able to do it!

Cheers,
Bill
www.mrbillstunes.com