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The description of the several amplifier models in Amp mention 'classic' amps in various traditions such that someone who really knows their electric guitar history could know which ones where used in the design.

Anyone care to hazard a guess or speculation as to what were the original amplifier models? I don't know much about guitar amps, nor why the specific model isn't mentioned.

Clean = Vox AC30
Boost = AC30 w/ external treble booster. It was very common, almost traditional to use an external treble boost
Blues = Fender, could be any but maybe Twin Reverb
Rock = Marshall
Lead/Heavy = Mesa Boogie
Bass = Marshall

I have to say they are rubbish, but meh use it for some wierd effects if you are desperate. They suffer from the 'horde of angry bees' syndrome, the clean is ok I guess.

S

Simbosan wrote:Clean = Vox AC30
Boost = AC30 w/ external treble booster. It was very common, almost traditional to use an external treble boost
Blues = Fender, could be any but maybe Twin Reverb
Rock = Marshall
Lead/Heavy = Mesa Boogie
Bass = Marshall

The Bass is modelled after a Simms Watts, not a Marshall.

Simbosan wrote: I have to say they are rubbish, but meh use it for some wierd effects if you are desperate. They suffer from the 'horde of angry bees' syndrome, the clean is ok I guess.
S

Can you elaborate on this? What are you trying to use them for?

If you have problems setting it up, then have a look at the Amp lessons. All audio demos from http://www.ableton.com/amp are included in the lesson.

If you have problems setting it up, then have a look at the Amp lessons. All audio demos from http://www.ableton.com/amp are included in the lesson.

I cannot find the Amp lessons!?

Gnuus wrote:

If you have problems setting it up, then have a look at the Amp lessons. All audio demos from http://www.ableton.com/amp are included in the lesson.

I cannot find the Amp lessons!?

If you are a Suite user, make sure Amp is authorized (Amp/Cabinet should show up in your Audio Effects browser).

Open the Help view - there is a big "What's new in 8.2" section at the top, including a link to the Amp lesson.

If you do not have Amp, you can still open the lesson sets to check out Amp:

1) Go to your Live Library/Lessons/Sets/
2) Open any of the Live Sets that start with Amp-xxx-Examples.als
These Live Sets contain all the demos used on ableton.com/amp
3) Live will go into Demo mode until the set is closed

Hope this helps.

I cannot find the "What's new in 8.2" section and there's no Amp lesson either:

It seems your Amp was not unlocked automatically.

Please try this: Open the "Preferences/User Account" and click on "Authorize at ableton.com"

Follow the website to re-authorize Live. Once that is done you should see Amp/Cabinet showing up under Audio Effects, and the Amp lessons link will also appear in the "What's new in 8.2".

It looks like I'm not allowed to try the Amps

I can authorize whatever I want, but it doesn't help:




I also reached my authorization limit now

Actually, the simulations sound pretty darn good! You need to use both the AMP and CABINET plugs though, not just AMP (they are separate). But having used lots of third party amp plug ins, these sound just as good if not better, albeit with somewhat less tweakability right now.

db wrote:

Simbosan wrote:Clean = Vox AC30
Boost = AC30 w/ external treble booster. It was very common, almost traditional to use an external treble boost
Blues = Fender, could be any but maybe Twin Reverb
Rock = Marshall
Lead/Heavy = Mesa Boogie
Bass = Marshall

The Bass is modelled after a Simms Watts, not a Marshall.

Simbosan wrote: I have to say they are rubbish, but meh use it for some wierd effects if you are desperate. They suffer from the 'horde of angry bees' syndrome, the clean is ok I guess.
S

Can you elaborate on this? What are you trying to use them for?

If you have problems setting it up, then have a look at the Amp lessons. All audio demos from http://www.ableton.com/amp are included in the lesson.

Hy!
What is a Simms Watts?
I thought it is a Hiwatt since the pics on the Bass Amp room looked like this....
Thanks!

Thought it was a fender bassman myself.

Hy!
What is a Simms Watts?
I thought it is a Hiwatt since the pics on the Bass Amp room looked like this....
Thanks!




Simms Watts was an amp that John Entwistle used.

Simbosan wrote: I have to say they are rubbish, but meh use it for some wierd effects if you are desperate. They suffer from the 'horde of angry bees' syndrome, the clean is ok I guess.
S

You must have forgotten to drop the cabinet FX after The AMP.

cheers

The cabinets are bass heavy to get rid of that 'horde of angry bees' sound. You can also just throw an EQ on there and get rid of everything over 4200 hz (I think...). That's what I do for my HW modeler and it helps immensely.

AceLuby wrote:The cabinets are bass heavy to get rid of that 'horde of angry bees' sound. You can also just throw an EQ on there and get rid of everything over 4200 hz (I think...). That's what I do for my HW modeler and it helps immensely.

Guitar cabinets are bass heavy anyway (I often run sine wave bass through my amp to add a touch of harmonics and an uneven frequency response and I swear it'll tear the house down one day), nothing special about Cabinet at all. And it's about 5Khz roughly and a massive boost in the mids and low end.