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Solid state drives?

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:19 pm
by Halycon
Who has em'? Who love's em'? Who hates em'? Give it to me!

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:03 am
by IP
love to hate them :p

Love them for... no temperatures, no noise, no vibration problems, big speeds, bit lees of weight, less power usage (= more battery for laptops and more ECO)

Hate them because i cant afford them ;p
the price per GB is very high and also i dont trust them yet for long time reliability (the current SSD technologies)

Anyway this shit is the future...
I may upgrade all my systems in 1,5-2 years when the competition will be bigger and the cost way less ;-)

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:45 am
by davepermen
IP, they life for years, no need to fear. the rest of your computer will die long before the ssd. + the right ssd will report you when it comes to an end, so you know in advance.

about the cost. well, consider your laptop feeling slow, thinking about buying a new one. ssd is much cheaper, and gives you more speedup and highend features (no vibration problems, no noise).

but this winter, the new intel ssds will come out, that are planned to be around 1-1.5$ per gb. that will mean a 300gb ssd for around 400$, if we're lucky. pricy, yes, but not out of reach.

i switched to all-ssds about two years ago. i could not move back, they're absolutely awesome. worth every penny i paid back then.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:48 am
by fishmonkey
yes, but you probably have a Swiss bank account.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:49 am
by davepermen
doesn't make me auto-rich, sadly..

as said, best investment ever made.


it's like when people buy macs. they think it's worth the additional money. for me, that's ssds. cost much, but worth it.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:52 am
by fishmonkey
get outta here! everyone with a Swiss bank account is rich. i've seen the movies.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:58 am
by davepermen
:) (actually, even in those movies, we only host the money, we don't have it. the evil corrupt mafia bosses and such have it. so if you're rich, you host your money here. doesn't mean i can use it)

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:12 am
by sporkles
davepermen wrote: it's like when people buy macs. they think it's worth the additional money. for me, that's ssds. cost much, but worth it.
But do they have a well of pithy slogans?

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:13 am
by davepermen
well, with intel, you get stickers:
Image

and in general, ssds have an awesome title song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

you could combine it with a mac to get all of it (oh, and a turtle-neck)

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:31 am
by sporkles
davepermen wrote:(oh, and a turtle-neck)
Well, blimey! That looks like it could potentially... just... work! I'm sold; I'm getting all three. I just have to make a
minor bank withdrawal. Actually; my bank is in your area, I believe.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:02 am
by 3phase
i lately had cases where my laptop refused to boot because of vibration thru the bassbins on stage.. !!
theese new >300 GB drives are more sensetiv as older 60GB models,
so ssd as soon as possible

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:06 am
by davepermen
glad they did "just not boot", and not actually tried to. you don't want your needle to scratch your disk if any square millimeter on it is your relevant data.

but yeah, ssd ftw on stage.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:10 am
by Machinesworking
davepermen wrote: but this winter, the new intel ssds will come out, that are planned to be around 1-1.5$ per gb. that will mean a 300gb ssd for around 400$, if we're lucky. pricy, yes, but not out of reach.
What are the read/write speeds of these drives though? SSDs still vary pretty heavily on write speeds, and even read can be slower.
Any links to articles about this new batch of cheaper SSDs?

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:14 am
by davepermen
readwrites don't really matter. latency does. there the intels are about the best so far (0.65ms random read access). so even a "slow" ssd would be much faster anyways.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3965/inte ... s-revealed

250MB/s read speed, 170MB/s write speed. up to 50K/40K IOPS. one of my harddrive made 4 write iops a second for random writes.. so a factor 1000 and more, there, easily (10000 with these numbers, but lets wait for benchmarks).

the intels might not be the highest end this time, but they sure will be the best price/performance/storage offering. and they're reliable so far. can't say they last 10 years, only have them for 1 / 1.5 years, respectively.

Re: Solid state drives?

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:45 am
by smaucher
got a 60GB samsung SSD for system (win7x64) and a wd scorpio black 500GB for data in my laptop; works awesome.
boot time until desktop is fully accessible: 14 sec, including logon. live opens in 5 sec. :-)

higly recommended!