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Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:18 pm
by LoGiCa
Hi, I am having a serious issue with random bursts of rediculously loud, monitor desttroying white noise from Ableton 8.2.

The plugin causing this (or seems to be) is filter delay.

I have never had these issues before and it has nearly given me a heart attack several times as its totally without warning.It also happens sometime when I stop the track in arrangement view.

I am running Ableton 8.2 on Windows 7 X64 with an M-Audio Delta 192 Soundcard (Latest Drivers) with a buffer size of 512 samples.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:19 pm
by Ableton_David
Please get in touch with technical support about this issue: http://www.ableton.com/support

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:10 am
by LoGiCa
The only reply I got from support was to update my sound card drivers but I have the latest!

I dont get this issue with any other audio software.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:03 am
by Ableton_David
Are you still getting the issue? Is it consistent every time you use Filter Delay?

Also, in the mean time you should update to Live 8.2.1. It's a free download here: http://www.ableton.com/downloads.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:19 am
by LoGiCa
Hi David, I will update and test it for a while and report back.

Thanks for the reply

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:50 pm
by LoGiCa
No differnece after updating, still get these bursts of white noise and then rising clicking sounds that get louder an louder when stopping and starting playback.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:34 am
by TechnoPrisoner
any news about it?

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:40 pm
by foetus666
This might be a bit offtopic but Soundtoys Echoboy does the same thing in ableton. It seems to occur when looping on the arrange page. The noise almost made me loose bowel control and almost assasinated my client.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:05 pm
by bakku
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much- ... ycling.htm

or :roll:

Set "Audio From"for that channel to "none"

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:36 pm
by fl0w

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:56 am
by foetus666
:D Thanks You

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:23 pm
by Gregory Wells-King
And for any one else tuning in.

Sometimes, you may forget to turn off your internet wireless conection, which causes drop out's and other nasty's,

It's of course old news, but it's still caught me out on more than one occasion.. :wink:

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:44 pm
by Winterpark
soundtoys 4.1 update is out now... for those affected by this.

Re: Deafening bursts of white noise Ableton 8.2 Windows 7 X64

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:39 pm
by rhythm_kitchen
This was happening in Pro Tools especially with the USB mBox 2. Besides wifi, there's bluetooth advertisements. The official fix from AVID (not applicable to you or I is a monster audio cable) but I think it is feedback on the data pairs of the USB (should have dual ferrite beads) and that cable somehow prevents feedback of EMI on your wiring, in the air, etc.

I've been suspecting that the real culprit is the 32mBs of cache in the audio or sample hard drives... back in the old days of Vision on a Mac SE we had this MIDI clog in the serial port cache when we all updated to Quadras, someone at Opcode wrote a cache cleaner... just a guess, no one at Digi confirmed this, most of those top level Opcoders went to Apple, but we used to use 8 mBs of cache on ATA drives or Cheetahs (LVD SCSI) and now its 32mBs which is a lot binary data actually spit out into the sound card all at once.

Have you run DPClat.exe and RATT? There is a good post (Sticky) over at the REAPER forum on using these two programs to locate DPC interrupts. Wifi, bluetooth, even some ethernet NIC cards (some gigabyte mobos) can cause DPC interrupts. Telecomms require dual ferrite beads on all data cabling. I would disconnect the front convenience ports to the mobo (you can easily see the shielding has stopped and the data pairs no longer twisted) and only plug into the Faraday Shielded ports at the rear -- even a mouse. Are you using eSATA or do you have a mouse plugged into the front port? USB is one big hub like ethernet. EMI on any USB device can poison the entire hub.

EMI may be cached, and it probably is pink noise. But this is just a guess. Bummer if it blows a tweeter our an ear drum!!!! NI is now using dual ferrite beaded cables FYI.