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ooops, I bought loops cda format......
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:45 am
by redrabbit
This may not be such a big oops, depending if you guys can help me out.
I have never purchased a CD-Audio format loop cd.
I also know how to convert it to .wav (in wavelab).
But, there are no track names, just numbers.....lots'o numbers!
.....and, inside all those tracks, there are the individual instrument loops.
.....AND, most of all, the loops inside a track are....well.....just
one long track with silence between each loop.
Do I have to disect each track, loop by loop, give them names (for convience), and re-save?
I know about wavelab's Auto Split, but still that's a lot of work.
Your replys are appreciated
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:23 am
by ::mic-minimal::
hi, use wavlab to import all the audio tracks off the cd and define the separation of the regions by the silence between tracks. wavlab can do this, look in wavlabs manual about regions/slicing.
peace
-mic
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:40 pm
by rikhyray
It is a lot of work but whatever format I always audition, the loops cut them- most of products are badly done. There is no much difference cda, wav or whatever, finally what is the use of the names done by someone else. So my experience is that to make it usefull ( and not scroll through hundreds of wav I may never use) the you have to do some renaming work.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:12 pm
by adhmzaiusz
you wanna know the best way possible?
use recycle and set the sensitivity of the hitpoints low, so they just sense each seperation of sound, then turn on export as one sample and export.
presto chango
you might also wanto put on the gate sense to a low setting, and there you have all seperated tracks with no silence in your files and all saved seperately
this honestly takes 1/100th of the time just set your hitpoints and then xport!!
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:38 am
by redrabbit
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thanks for the tips!
I do have Recycle, so .......
I'll try them all.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:01 am
by TrackTeam Audio
For those of you on Macs, there is a wonderful shareware app out there called Sample Manager. It does too many useful things to mention here but one of the great things is it can take large audio files, such as those ripped from a CD full of loops, and break them up into individual files. Add to that a batch renaming utility, auto pitch and BPM detection and a million other tools to keep your sound library neat and tidy. It's really worth a look for anyone out there looking to make sense of a huge collection of sounds. And no I don't work for Sample Manager, it just works for me.
TrackTeam
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:12 pm
by ashley_k
Another one for those with Macs, check out excellent AudioFinder at:
http://www.icedaudio.com/
Check out Sample Manager at:
http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/sample_manager.php
Both excellent tools and they help make working with sample libraries and audio CDs almost bearable!
Ashley_K
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:33 pm
by mexique1
there's also CDXTRACT to do that, but it's not free
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:53 pm
by louZ
adhmzaiusz wrote:you wanna know the best way possible?
use recycle and set the sensitivity of the hitpoints low, so they just sense each seperation of sound, then turn on export as one sample and export.
presto chango
you might also wanto put on the gate sense to a low setting, and there you have all seperated tracks with no silence in your files and all saved seperately
this honestly takes 1/100th of the time just set your hitpoints and then xport!!
i'm trying to do this with an Ueberschall hiphop sample cd i have. it's not as easy as you describe it to be. when you set the sensitivity just to 1, Recycle already creates much too much hitpoints, especially in drumloops. when i set the gate just to 0.5 some samples are already grayed out and are not rendered.
also, export as one sample needs to be turned off, not on.
any easier methods to do this? or am i missing something with recycle?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:35 am
by redrabbit
Yes, with Recycle, the Gate/Sensitivity Slider is not doing it for me as well.
First of all, the last slice of a loop has no marker on it's right side....until the next sound (which is the begining of the next loop, including all the silence in between). Now I could
put another marker in there, but we are trying to find an efficient method......for about up to 200 loops per CD.
It is possible the Gate on low setting IS affecting silence (that won't be exported), but I have not tried it.
From the Wavelab forum:
I have a cd track with many loops that need splitting between the loops....and then saved to seperate files.
So far I am able to do this with Auto Split , but I can't get rid of about 80ms silence at the end of each saved loop.
Splitting heads and tails only removes the begining and end of an entire file, not in the middle, unless there's loop markers in there(I think).
* I have detect silence as: "at least/minimun": 600 ms
* insert silence at beging and end as: 0 ms (or just uncheck the boxes)
* silence is understood as -80dB (also tried -60dB)
....I still get about 80 ms silence at the end. I zoom way in, adjust wave heigth, and can see silence, do the math =around 80ms.
I tried to just have Auto Split create only loop markers (not save to seperate files)...and.... same result.
Maybe there's a batch process to remove it, but I'm looking for the quickest way. After all, Auto Split should do this, and I'm so close.
What am I not understanding?
I'm still trying to figure which app is best for this, Recycle or Wavelab....I don't know because I haven't found an easy way in either of them.
Who knows?
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