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EATING HUMBLE PIE - ABE's and MR.Henke I hate YOU .........
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:31 pm
by FaX-01
I still know the price is out of my budget range

....
But DAMMIT the more I mess with the OPERATOR the more I like it.
Great sound.
Best implementation of FM synthesis I've seen.
Logical.
Concise.
Easy to Program
Nice - filters so it's BOTH FM and Subtractive

..........
Oohhh it will take me six months (yes seriously) but I'm gonna have to cave in on this sucker.
Between it - Tackle box - Impulse - Simpler - Kubic - Reason I'm pretty much laughing IMHO ..........
Oh my God I think I'm becoming a
Born again Operator 
.....
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:59 pm
by adhmzaiusz
do you feel guilty or embarrasted for all that stink you originally raised now?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:34 pm
by conny
Re: EATING HUMBLE PIE - ABE's and MR.Henke I hate YOU .........
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:56 pm
by smutek
FaX-01 wrote:I still know the price is out of my budget range

....
But DAMMIT the more I mess with the OPERATOR the more I like it.
Great sound.
Best implementation of FM synthesis I've seen.
Logical.
Concise.
Easy to Program
Nice - filters so it's BOTH FM and Subtractive

..........
Oohhh it will take me six months (yes seriously) but I'm gonna have to cave in on this sucker.
Between it - Tackle box - Impulse - Simpler - Kubic - Reason I'm pretty much laughing IMHO ..........
Oh my God I think I'm becoming a
Born again Operator 
.....
he he he he he (chuckles to self)

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:55 pm
by AdamJay
i think alot of folks were just bitching cuz they only use presets (of course there was sticker shock too!!!), but many of those who complained about how it sounded vs. FM7 i think were only listening to presets as many of them were bitching about the presets themselves.
kinda like bitching about Live's default .als song.
i've been running Operator through MS-20 filters and regular ableton fx and getting great results. I've got $99 onit!!!!
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:21 pm
by pentajigga
$99? thought it was more?
link?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:25 pm
by AdamJay
no no no , i'm just saying i got $99 on it, not $149
sorry for the midwest slang.
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:01 pm
by supster
Its not easy being ahead of your time ...
*blows on fingers*
hehehe

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:45 pm
by smutek
AdamJay wrote:kinda like bitching about Live's default .als song.
Not sure if you remember but people actually
did bitch about the default als song......

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:33 pm
by FaX-01
adhmzaiusz wrote:do you feel guilty or embarrasted for all that stink you originally raised now?
I definately don't feel "embarrasted" seeing as it isn't word in anyone's vocabulary !
Secondly do you feel like a truly condescending self righteous bitch for posting that ?
Got to keep that superiority complex in check haven't you

.
And just to clarify I
bitched about PRICE I didn't bitch about sound quality - two different things altogether or maybe in the land of "EMBARRASTED" people are too ignorant to notice otherwise.
PS: And yes I apologise for being solely responsible for the STINK in here if it appeases your moronic sensibilities - I obviously have 90 other pseudonymns in here and just trolled all day because I could
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:43 pm
by Komplex
yeah but you used big writing

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:51 pm
by FaX-01
Komplex wrote:yeah but you used big writing

You mean some like this?
I was just being creative ! 
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:22 am
by dfusion
AdamJay wrote:i think alot of folks were just bitching cuz they only use presets (of course there was sticker shock too!!!), but many of those who complained about how it sounded vs. FM7 i think were only listening to presets as many of them were bitching about the presets themselves.
kinda like bitching about Live's default .als song.
i've been running Operator through MS-20 filters and regular ableton fx and getting great results. I've got $99 onit!!!!
HOLD IT JUST A SECOND MR. JAY!
There are two camps here, the lamers who complain about the sound - bah! And those who legitimately complain that the asking price is too high. We all love to think Ableton is a forward thinking company that provides fresh, new, innovative ways to music making. But introducing a $150 Live-only plugin with no other feature requests (that users have been providing good feedback towards for a long time) totally sucks ass. Even if they would have delivered half-dozen or so new (minior) features, plus Operator for $79 then it would have been enlightening. But the thunder is lost and we know Ableton is most concerned about their bank account impressing investors than user loyalty. Even if the Operator plugin would be $79 from now until the end of January, then the price went up after that, it give people incentive to jump on it. Despite how good (or bad) Operator sounds, it's the way Ableton hyped the new device, and presented it to the public, that was a major turn off. Thumbs down for Public Relations. Thumbs up for technical creativity.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:20 am
by logicat2001
dfusion,
Didn't ableton simply say there was a new addition to Live called Operator, then asked us to try and guess what it was? That doesn't sound like much of a hype. It was this f'in forum that went ape-shit and completely turned me off. It was truly disgusting.
But the thunder is lost and we know Ableton is most concerned about their bank account impressing investors than user loyalty.
AFAIK, Ableton is a privately held company. If that's still the case, then I have no idea what you're talking about. Ableton's so-called "Thunder" was in offering a unique implementation of FM synthesis, for anyone who was interested. Sounds alright to me; I'm not interested, so I didn't buy it.
End of story.
And to <_you_fill_in_your_favorite_forum_members_name_here>, your ranting has really been a low point on this board. First frantic that Ableton reveal what "Operator" is, then bitching that it's not something you're interested in. Now, you're all excited because you're really beginning to like what it can do. Useless, pathetic, and petty drama.
Best,
Anton
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:09 am
by FaX-01
Takes Bow and waits for encore ..............
Oh well you're not a lost cause you do use Metasynth