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im not certain if this is the right area

but what I want to do is to layer a CRAP ton of drum samples and basically end up with a really big wall of noise. It would take for ever to do this using tracks and I would end up with a plethora of em. Then if I wanted to add an effect I would have to add the same effect to each track. Is there a way to record a loop, then to keep on recording to the orginal loop? Sort of like a delay with 100% feedback and a dynamic delay time of up to a couple minutes.

is there a delay plugin that can do that? because all the ones Ive been able to find have really short delay times.

btw, Im relatively new to live 4.
thanks a lot.

hi there.
we need to know which platform you are on.
If it is OSX,
this Augustus Loop is the best one.

http://www.collective.co.uk/expertsleep ... sloop.html

Yes, I hope Live4 had this function also.
PLZ tell me how you liked it.
Hope you will enjoy.

good luck

sorry about that, im on winders XP.

but thanks

No problem.
I havn't use these plug-ins (windows) but i heard they are good.
In your case, I would use the tape delay.
check it out

http://www.interruptor.ch/vst_overview.shtml

hi,

* create a new return track
* insert eight (for eight bars buffer) 'simple delays', each one set to the longest time setting. you have to set the first inserted one to null feedback and full dry/wet...
* put the send corresponding to this send track to 'pre'
* set this return track's send to max value (-> this is the trick: everything you have in this 'buffer' gets repeated over eight bars)
* play... everything you put into this 'delay line' gets repeated endlessly and without any change...

the only drawback is the cpu time needed for eight delays...
but this is sooooo wicked... i'm recording trumpet using this technology

ASK IF THERE's STH MISSING FOR YOU

[now that was a trick, heh ]

have a great time!

stupid ass wrote:im not certain if this is the right area

but what I want to do is to layer a CRAP ton of drum samples and basically end up with a really big wall of noise. It would take for ever to do this using tracks and I would end up with a plethora of em. Then if I wanted to add an effect I would have to add the same effect to each track. Is there a way to record a loop, then to keep on recording to the orginal loop? Sort of like a delay with 100% feedback and a dynamic delay time of up to a couple minutes.

is there a delay plugin that can do that? because all the ones Ive been able to find have really short delay times.

btw, Im relatively new to live 4.
thanks a lot.

Excellent trick!
This makes it possible to add whatever to a running "buffer" and when its OK resample the buffer to a new audio clip.
I had Ismpler feed the delay buffer with one shot sounds, changing the file in Simpler when the buffer was going, thus adding new sounds on the already catched ones.
Endless possibilities!
// C

pseudonyme wrote:hi,

* create a new return track
* insert eight (for eight bars buffer) 'simple delays', each one set to the longest time setting. you have to set the first inserted one to null feedback and full dry/wet...
* put the send corresponding to this send track to 'pre'
* set this return track's send to max value (-> this is the trick: everything you have in this 'buffer' gets repeated over eight bars)
* play... everything you put into this 'delay line' gets repeated endlessly and without any change...

the only drawback is the cpu time needed for eight delays...
but this is sooooo wicked... i'm recording trumpet using this technology

ASK IF THERE's STH MISSING FOR YOU

[now that was a trick, heh ]

have a great time!

thanks a lot

but ima little confused

1) create a new return track
2) insert eight 'simple delays' in the return track, each one set to the longest time setting. you have to set the first inserted one to null feedback and full dry/wet...
3) for the audio track that I want to overdub, send its output to 'pre'? How do I do that
4) set this return track's send to max value. But then where am I sending its output to? Or is it coming right back to the audio track?

am a little new to live 4

I use the Ellotronix XL when I want to pretend I am Robert Fripp,
Free and PC

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/p_vst.htm

VST plugin which emulates the famous Robert Fripp's effect called "Frippertronics": two Revox B-77
making a continuous loop. This enhanced version adds many new features: 80 seconds maximum
delay, Delay and LFO Pan now syncable to host, Biquad X filters, Tape noise generator...

PM me with a mail adress, I send you my verson of the Live overdub.
Some things I did not get either, but anyway.
(At work, can't elaborate...)
// C

conny wrote:PM me with a mail adress, I send you my verson of the Live overdub.
Some things I did not get either, but anyway.
(At work, can't elaborate...)
// C

pm sent

thanks

this may work:

Use your resampling option in the audio in in an empty track, and arm the track.

Then set up a reasonable amount of tracks and effect them to your hearts content. record one loop length (or more) on your resampling track. you can now delete all other tracks. Then, keeping the resampled track, add more tracks to play alongside it. Then record THAT in a new, armed track. get the idea? keep compressing it down.

I'm pretty new with this so if there is some completely obvious reason this won't work (or work well) theres no need to jump all over me.

I have done similar things like this, but not for the same purposes as you. Any how, I hope thiswill help you manage the insane amount of tracks you are thinking of working with.