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Hallo.......

Did you know that Beatport is on the way out of the "Club"! Unbeliveable they have been signing contracts with the biggest major labels like Warner! and EMI without even mention it to the other labels on BP! That's a totally sellout and it is the beginning of end for BP. Major labels are the death to indie labels, they are the baddest thing in the music industry you can think of. They ruined the music scene back in the 80's and 90's, they did nothing to support the deejay's and club culture back then, and now they are coming creaping into the scene again with the only one thing in mind selling out and ruin a scene that they lost the control over back in the 90's. I have to laugh, Beatport is selling pop music now!? That's a totally overkill from Beatport to its loyal customers and the clubscene who actually thinks that BP stands for quality dance music. I wont support that model that's for sure!

"Beatport" stands for POP Music & Sellout!

Beatport's always been too mainstream in my book. Much prefer Juno.

Juno is my favorite too but the quality of the samples is completely crap
Juno streams @ 64kbps and BP @ 96

I think Traxsource is the most specialist music led site

Maybe you should read this:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=13612

I'm a big addictech http://www.addictech.com/ fan myself... good for all things glitchy

I was never too worried about Beatport having too much music, music 'not underground enough', etc... the search capability and ability to favorite artists was very useful and allowed me to filter through the garbage pretty quickly. The price killed it for me; Beatport often was just too expensive.

Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

beats me wrote:Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

I agree but it still takes people to buy it for beatport to even care. They could host all of Atlantic's catalog, it doesn't mean the beatport user base will actually buy it. I just hope we don't see BP advertising too much in this direction and pushing their fan base away (that's when i'll be disappointed).

Regarding your quality control comment, i do agree but last year they implemented the 300 sales per quarter minimum which should help w/ the 4000 tracks a week we're currently seeing being released. I hope they roll out more QC requirements but I know this weeded out a lot of the small guys and pushed them to places like bandcamp.

beats me wrote:Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

Kind of - I guess this is what quotas came in to try and fix - garbage labels wont sell etc and so die/get expelled being the theory.
In practice it also means that people are forced into working with labels whether they want to or not - ie defacto record industry behaviour etc that exists to ensure that most of the money goes into the hands of the few in the channels - rather than original artists.

Khazul wrote:

beats me wrote:Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

Kind of - I guess this is what quotas came in to try and fix - garbage labels wont sell etc and so die/get expelled being the theory.
In practice it also means that people are forced into working with labels whether they want to or not - ie defacto record industry behaviour etc that exists to ensure that most of the money goes into the hands of the few in the channels - rather than original artists.

Khazul wrote:

beats me wrote:Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

Kind of - I guess this is what quotas came in to try and fix - garbage labels wont sell etc and so die/get expelled being the theory.
In practice it also means that people are forced into working with labels whether they want to or not - ie defacto record industry behaviour etc that exists to ensure that most of the money goes into the hands of the few in the channels - rather than original artists.

First off, nobody is getting rich off of music download sales.

Second, the point of a label isn’t as some technicality to get your tracks on places like beatport like it’s a God given right. The point of a label is promotion to get your music heard and/or get you gigs in the process and making money for all involved.

Creating a label over the weekend isn’t sticking it to The Man. It’s further diluting the pool of bullshit that is already out there. So yay, your song rules and you used the loophole to get your track on beatport….and so did 100 other assholes who’s tracks suck. But I guess the warm feeling of being on beatport is all it takes for some producers to feel they’ve arrived.

beats me wrote:

Khazul wrote:

beats me wrote:Major labels won’t ruin beatport. What ruined beatport, and by extension underground music, is beatport told every producer they had to be on a label and instead of producers finding a respectable label they invented their own label and were up and running within a week churning out their garbage on their “label” with zero quality control. That ruined it and will continue to.

Kind of - I guess this is what quotas came in to try and fix - garbage labels wont sell etc and so die/get expelled being the theory.
In practice it also means that people are forced into working with labels whether they want to or not - ie defacto record industry behaviour etc that exists to ensure that most of the money goes into the hands of the few in the channels - rather than original artists.

First off, nobody is getting rich off of music download sales.

Second, the point of a label isn’t as some technicality to get your tracks on places like beatport like it’s a God given right. The point of a label is promotion to get your music heard and/or get you gigs in the process and making money for all involved.

Creating a label over the weekend isn’t sticking it to The Man. It’s further diluting the pool of bullshit that is already out there. So yay, your song rules and you used the loophole to get your track on beatport….and so did 100 other assholes who’s tracks suck. But I guess the warm feeling of being on beatport is all it takes for some producers to feel they’ve arrived.

Kind of reads like your having a poke but I cant see why, or you read something in what i said tahts put you in rant mode

Where is the fraud? I don't get it.

you are all idiots, and I'm one too
we should make some music

I spent some time on beatport recently and found the entire user experience to be truly, truly WRETCHED.