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hi everyone!

could anybody help me with my problem?
i just bought a very cheap e-drum (yamaha dd-50) and i connected it via midi to ableton using the drum rack.
i do not want to use it for emulating real drums but for playing old drum machines in a kraftwerk style, which means that i do not need any velocity sensitive sounds, every sound has to be always at 100% velocity.

i loaded my sounds into the drum rack, set the decay, sustain and release for every sound to 100% and everything works fine. except this one thing:

when i hit a drum pad on my dd-50, most of the time i also hit it again at a very low velocity, the drumstick just bounces back. unfortunately because i chose to set the velocity-level of the ableton drum rack to 100% it triggers the sound again at a 100% level, so it sounds like i am always doing a drum roll or something like that.

is there a way to tell ableton to ignore any note below a velocity of maybe 30%, so that these double notes are not recorded or at least played anymore?

thanks,
stefan

that bouncing back is called a paradiddle. really you should just learn to play the pads, use your paradiddles and you can progress to playing drum rolls.

maybe if you pyuut an arpeggiator in front of the drums it would trigger on the first one but ignore the second one. arps are a way to quantize midi. dunno if that would work, try it.

Tone Deft wrote:that bouncing back is called a paradiddle. really you should just learn to play the pads, use your paradiddles and you can progress to playing drum rolls.

maybe if you pyuut an arpeggiator in front of the drums it would trigger on the first one but ignore the second one. arps are a way to quantize midi. dunno if that would work, try it.

You serious? As far as I know a paradiddle is a "rudiment", a fix combination of strokes with the left and the right hand. Namely RLRRLRLL (you can start from any position, thus getting 8 variations in total). There are other variations like double- and tripleparadiddle or paradidllediddle. And the flamparadiddle.

To op: I totally agree with TD´s second point: learn how to play the pads!

Just let the stick losely fall down on the pad and it will rebound. Cultivate that and you should be fine for Kraftwerk style drumming.

dancing Ray wrote:You serious? As far as I know a paradiddle is a "rudiment", a fix combination of strokes with the left and the right hand. Namely RLRRLRLL (you can start from any position, thus getting 8 variations in total). There are other variations like double- and tripleparadiddle or paradidllediddle. And the flamparadiddle.

I could be completely wrong. I'm no drummer I'm a hack guitar player that's gone to peoples' homes with drums and been given very rudimentary 'lessons'.

googling that term, you're right.

I had total perma-grin when I learned to do a drum roll. softer, louder, up and down in pitch, really amazing feeling.

signed,
-World's Worst Drummer

^^

op: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZUfWgl ... re=related

have a look here. The rebound is important.

I teach it a little different, though, but there are many ways...

You can use the MIDI Velocity Effect as a gate to block lower velocity notes from playing. Set Mode to Gate, set Range to 127, out hi to 127, Out low to 0 and 'lowest' is the one you need to play with to block out certain notes below a certain value (I think so PM me if I remember that wrong...)
Jesse

Jesse wrote:You can use the MIDI Velocity Effect as a gate to block lower velocity notes from playing. Set Mode to Gate, set Range to 127, out hi to 127, Out low to 0 and 'lowest' is the one you need to play with to block out certain notes below a certain value (I think so PM me if I remember that wrong...)
Jesse

^^
of course this is the correct answer to ops question.

yeah, thanks a lot, i'll try that.
and OF COURSE i have to learn playing the drums properly, i really suck at drumming, but i really have fun playing it and i just want to record it without the double notes...

thanks everyone!

Jesse wrote:You can use the MIDI Velocity Effect as a gate to block lower velocity notes from playing. Set Mode to Gate, set Range to 127, out hi to 127, Out low to 0 and 'lowest' is the one you need to play with to block out certain notes below a certain value (I think so PM me if I remember that wrong...)
Jesse

A nice straight answer. Thank you. I just Googled this.