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wolfgang gartner-ish electro house/legally sampling songs?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:57 am
by bassistheplace
so story goes.... some friends of mine gave me the idea to remix britney spears's "hold it against me." they had said that the song was weak (especially the dubstep section) and that it hadn't reached its fullest potential (all opinion). anyways, I gave it go.. and this is the progress that i made in the past week or so

the arbitrary title is just a bit of fun, nothing serious

I'm 14...if that has any significance
http://soundcloud.com/kardiak_arrest/garden-of-eden

ANDD, any feedback would be awesome.

Also, if I decided to continue this project w/o the britney spear's major parts (like the breakdown, but excluding little bits of voice, instruments,etc.) and some samples that are so morphed up you probably couldn't tell the original source, how would i go about distributing the final product freely/legally? fair use doctrine?

Re: wolfgang gartner-ish electro house/legally sampling songs?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:19 am
by conker
I liked it. Im confused on what you mean by distributing. Are you planning on selling records or something? I dont think anyone sells records anymore so I think your good.

Re: wolfgang gartner-ish electro house/legally sampling songs?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:29 am
by bassistheplace
not selling records but allowing a free download
i'm afraid that allowing a dl with uncleared samples (millesonds from songs) could lead to trouble

Re: wolfgang gartner-ish electro house/legally sampling songs?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:10 pm
by conker
I think you will probably be alright unless your song gets like 10,000 downloads. I think laws on internet use are kinda vague. Im just guessing though. does anyone on here know?

Re: wolfgang gartner-ish electro house/legally sampling songs?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:35 pm
by H20nly
i think if you give it away you're okay, but if you sell it or make it available only through a paid subscription type of deal or basically earn any money off it you start getting into issues. the good news is, if you're 14 there's bound to be a lot more legal wiggle room in the event that it actually came to anything like that.


bassistheplace wrote:Also, if I decided to continue this project w/o the britney spear's major parts (like the breakdown, but excluding little bits of voice, instruments,etc.) and some samples that are so morphed up you probably couldn't tell the original source, how would i go about distributing the final product freely/legally? fair use doctrine?
just to elaborate a little more on this bit though... be careful if you do plan on doing anything serious with your music. the band The Verve released a song around 2000-ish called Bitter Sweet Symphony. it was hugely successful and all over the place for a minute or two. then The Rolling Stones lawyer got a hold of it. some little piece of the track that was said to be rip off of a Rolling Stones track... they now own all the rights ever to that song including the money that was made prior. sad part is, their was an orchestral accompaniment on that track so there was something like 180 artists that contributed to it. The Stones bit just "sounded like" and they actually won. The big difference or course being that The Verve's song was on the Super Bowl on sit coms, radio, name it so it was huge before the law hounds sunk their teeth in. probably won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but i'd say a 14 year old doing Britney Spears mashups has a better chance making it big than a 40 year old doing his own original/experimental/yadayada/blah blah/insert genre music.