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Ive nicked this off another forum, apparantly it was written by Bill Brewster. Has anyone else got any info on this??

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"It looks as though audiophiles may have to resign
themselves to the fact that in a few years time
there will be only the chance to fondly re-live
the good old days of nostalgia, rather than
experience the new. Vinyl, the medium that took
over from Shellac, Bakelite and even earlier the
wax pressing, has had its final play well,
almost. The year 2009, looks set to be the final
turn in the long standing vinyl revolution.

A June 2003 press release from The Institute of
Chemical Engineering, advised that key by-
products of the current petroleum refining
process would no longer be generated by 2009, due
to deadlines agreed, in principle, with the
chemical industry back in 1992. These deadlines
were however, only finalised in 1999, in the face
of increasing environmental concerns and lobbying.

The IoCE went on to advise that a voluntary
co-funded research and development program to
seek a green alternative, possibly a
polycarbonate based compound had been proposed in
the 1999 summary. However no members of the
industry wide syndicate had been able to
substantiate a sufficiently high market demand
for a replacement for the petroleum by-product,
which is the primary base for vinyl record albums."

ut oh we need a new medium...good thing i got lots of wax


...hmmmm maybe we could recycle shitty records?

this combined with the news that Quantegy has stopped producing analog tape makes for very sad news.


however, i predict that vinyl and analog tape both still have many years left in them and will not be allowed to die any time soon.


-m

you'll always be able to find some place that presses vinyl, even after 2009.

k

Somehow i think this is a good thing for people with thousands of records. especially if they have a lot of rare ones.
Once you have that many you cant say that you haven't invested.

Maybe final scratch 2 will be a solid replacement. It's coming out this weekend i think.

well given the next step in DVD the Blue ray format holds 27GB and the whole world is in the process of wireless broadbanding everything I cant see why anyone would still want to lug around big heavy slabs of plastic - by 2009 you'll most likely have top notch audio direct to your phone or laptop - the technology will force it under anyway

it's always been a matter of time

CDs are already just a home burned thing for me - I'm getting rid of crap loads of them so I dont have to lug them all the way to OZ with me - Just taking a 120GB HD

Maybe final scratch 2 will be a solid replacement. It's coming out this weekend i think.[/quote]

I have just checked the website... the new interface looks more solid of the old one, now it's firewire, no more ubs and it has midi.
http://www.finalscratch.com/v3/prod_fs2.shtml#

...and then when your (i'm) still up there throwing down wax people will be like WOW! and their jaws will hit the floor.....ugg probably be lugging around turntables as well at that point!

This is bullshit.. it's only from one source and it's some cat that made up plenty of other rumors.

mike holiday wrote: ...hmmmm maybe we could recycle shitty records?

hey, it worked for Trax!!

doubletakeman wrote:This is bullshit.. it's only from one source and it's some cat that made up plenty of other rumors.

Yes I tend to agree with you, how often has this been predicted?..anyway werent vestax or someone producing discs for their cutting system that were pretty different from vinyl and 90% as durable..it seems to me that a probably better replacement for the material would not be impossible to produce..

OK...so say the current material is phased out but the format remains:

unbreakabe non-degrading space-age formula-1-chassis carbon fibre 12", anyone?

will the guiness book of records change their name if no more records can be broken?

doubletakeman wrote:This is bullshit.. it's only from one source and it's some cat that made up plenty of other rumors.

There is a raw ingredient used in the manufacture of vinyl which wont be available by 2009 due to its effect on the environment. The price of this ingredient will rise astranomically a year or two before 2009 which will mean labels will not be able to afford to manufacture vinyl. Eventually the few remaining vinyl pressing plants will close down. The smart ones are shifting their operations to DVD and CD manufacturing as we speak.


vnyl is coming to an end just like 2" recording tape which is no longer manufactured.

Progress cant be stopped.

hoffman2k wrote:Maybe final scratch 2 will be a solid replacement. It's coming out this weekend i think.

SSL (Serato Scratch Live) is a solid replacement, even scratch artists use it...