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How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:55 pm
by Mattofix
How do I take a sample, and play it using my midi keyboard, without it changing the tempo of the sample? I have had a look around and am not sure if this is possible without getting a VST to do so, if this is the case then which VST should I look at getting?

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:21 pm
by ARDJ
... turn up the pitch, keep ableton's master tempo as the same tempo of the source clip?

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:09 pm
by Piplodocus
Are you playing them in Ableton Sampler? I could be wrong but AFAIK the Sampler doesn't do time stretching so the tempo changes with pitch. Think it's a feature request for Live 9!

If you don't have many notes you could stretch and bounce them as clips before you put them in sampler?

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:19 pm
by jesus god sandal
Technically...
apart from what was already said
You can go about it the long way and transpose each note separately and manually unstretch each sound clip back to the same bpm so that it takes up the same length of time and youd still have to mess with the sustain but then you can take each of these clips and place them in the Drum Rack in the right positions and play your midi keyboard and youre set
with the drum rack it uses Simpler (or sampler, i get them mixed up all the time don't yell at me) and with that you can adjust the sustain and release and attack with each individual note.
This won't be super time consuming if it's only for one scale, but if you're doing a lot more than 12 notes then it could get really hectic
I don't suggest this method, I have done it before for a few notes, but if there is no other way, then go for it.
I'm just in class and bored and i thought i'd put my two cents in

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:29 pm
by oddstep
You can do timestretching in sampler. Check out garyboozy's patch or make a really small loop inside the sound you want to use and modulate loop start point with an lfo.

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:37 pm
by theophilus
the free sampletank can do this, if you don't want to use warping to do it. use the ps/ts mode.

Re: How do I change the pitch but not the tempo of a sample?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:23 pm
by steko
Not sure, if that fits your needs (no Sampler/Simpler features this way):

Drag sample into an empty slot on an audio-track in Session view.

Activate MIDI Map Mode (Cmd-M Mac - Ctrl-M Windows) & highlight audio-clip, to make it assignable.

On your midi-keyboard hit lowest & highest wanted key AND key for original pitch at the same time (or just original & highest / lowest for pitch change just in one direction).

Deactivate MIDI Map Mode (Cmd/Ctrl-M).

Set quantize as wanted.

Warp-Mode can be anything, except Re-Pitch.