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stupid midi-behavior of the launchpad: workaround?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:58 pm
by rozze
So I've spent ages to configure my bcr2000 and my Launchpad, and everything could be so sexy and beautiful if it wasn't for the launchpad's stupid midi behavior:

Everytime I switch between the launchpad's modes (session/user1/user2/mixer), all the led's on my bcr2000 flash for a short moment. Apparently the launchpad sends some "command" through the whole midi chain. It doesn't change the bcr's controller values or something, so normally I wouldn't mind.

BUT for one of the bcr's encoder group it does some kind of led-reset-jump that sucks big time. I can avoid that by a) choosing another led-behavior for the encoder group, or b) switching off the parameter feedback for the bcr2000. But I f***ing want to keep things as sexy and comfy as they are on my bcr2000 :evil:

From what I've heard the launchpad uses midi channel 1, 5 and 6 or something like that. So I haven't used these channels for any controller on my bcr2000 (they're all on channel 2-4). And the bcr2000 is set to not recieve program change commands (global menu).

So does anyone know of a way to "block" these commands (sent by the Launchpad when switching between its modes) from my BCR2000?

Cheers


EDIT: So I used midi-monitor (demo for win xp) to check out what the launchpad is sending when I switch through the modes:

session
B0 6C 7F Control Change Control 108 127 Channel 1
B0 6C 00 Control Change Control 108 0 Channel 1

user 1
B0 6D 7F Control Change Control 109 127 Channel 1
B0 6D 00 Control Change Control 109 0 Channel 1

user 2
B0 6E 7F Control Change Control 110 127 Channel 1
B0 6E 00 Control Change Control 110 0 Channel 1

mixer
B0 6F 7F Control Change Control 111 127 Channel 1
B0 6F 00 Control Change Control 111 0 Channel 1

Btw it sais "channel 1" for everything I press on the launchpad, though when I midi-map the user1 or user2 mode in ableton live they're on channels 5&6. But the channels of the bcr2000 are recognized as configured by midi-monitor. I'm such a midi-noob!!!

Re: stupid midi-behavior of the launchpad: workaround?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:42 pm
by chapelier fou
What if you use channel 2 on the BCR ?

Re: stupid midi-behavior of the launchpad: workaround?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:16 pm
by rozze
chapelier fou wrote:What if you use channel 2 on the BCR ?
Well, as I posted above, it's what I'm already doing.
rozze wrote:From what I've heard the launchpad uses midi channel 1, 5 and 6 or something like that. So I haven't used these channels for any controller on my bcr2000 (they're all on channel 2-4). And the bcr2000 is set to not recieve program change commands (global menu).
MIDI-OX also recognizes any button from the launchpad as on "channel 1", even though the ableton midi-map menu lists the buttons from user1 and user2 as "channel 5" and "channel 6". I don't get it...

Re: stupid midi-behavior of the launchpad: workaround?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:35 pm
by chapelier fou
Oops, sorry...

Re: stupid midi-behavior of the launchpad: workaround?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:29 pm
by #1thelark
Maybe you could route midi to the bfr via midiyoke. So Live>midiyoke>midiox>bcr with midiOx in between you could filter any unwanted messages....