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Trakotr S4 in midi mode as Ableton Live Controller

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:46 am
by requ
Hi

I'd love some help here.

Using "shift" browse i switch my Traktor S4 into midi mode. no issue. It's ON. Ableton is open and i switch it to midi. Blue covers all the spots. i refer you to this: http://www.live-laptops.com/Tutorials/A ... n_live.php

there some pics. my screen looks the same.

anyway, at that url it then says - All you have to do is click on the parameter you want to assign, then move the knob, button, key or fader on the midi controller. Repeat this for each parameter you want assign.

i twiddle a knob or move a slider on the S4 and... a big nothing.

Nada.

F-ck all.

As i understand it, and maybe i missed the plot completely, what should happen is that adjusting a device, lets say the deck A volume on the S4, would map said volume knob to what ever aspect i has selected in Ableton, lets say a macro controller i'm running bass frequency through.

Looking in the MIDI SYNC tab in Ableton there is no KONTROL S4 in the list. Is this the issue?

Hell, not even sure if what i'm attempting is even possible. has anybody done this successfully?

Any tips? I'm sh_tting here. Please help.

Thanks

Re: Trakotr S4 in midi mode as Ableton Live Controller

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:10 am
by requ
actually i think the issue is that Ableton has no support for "instant mapping" the S4.

I found this post http://learn2produce.com/school/forum/i ... topic=25.0 which says the following...

Unfortunately, Ableton's supported device list for Instant Mappings does not contain every possible controller. Here is a quick tip on how to add your own unsupported controller, or customize the way your controller behaves when using Instant Mappings:

1. Go to the following directory on your computer:

Mac: [Your home folder]/Library/Preferences/Ableton/[your version]/User Remote Scripts/

Windows: [Windows boot drive]/Users/ [your Username]/AppData/Roaming/Ableton/[your version]/Preferences/User Remote Scripts/

2. You should see a UserConfiguration.txt file in this directory. This is the template that you will use to create custom controller mappings for Ableton.

3. Create a new directory under "User Remote Scripts" and name it what you want your controller named in Ableton.

4. Copy the UserConfiguration.txt file in to the new directory for your controller. (make sure to copy and not move, as you may need a clean template later.)

5. Open the UserConfiguration.txt you just copied in to the new controller directory and follow the template to specify what you want each knob/button/slider to control (You will need the MIDI CC data from each control on your controller to configure this file.)
*note* defining Macro 1 - 8 is very powerful as you can place your soft synths in instrument racks and define macros for commonly used controls. (controls like: Cutoff, Resonance, Osc Pitch, modulation, Envelope settings, AMP Volume, etc.)

6. Save UserConfiguration.txt

Now open Ableton and go back to the MIDI tab in preferences. If you've done everything correctly, you will now notice your custom controller name in the 6 pull downs for Instant Mappings.

Once you have Ableton setup like this, you can make presets of your soft synths in Instrument Racks that have macro's predefined. This way while you are producing, you never have to stop to map your controller to record automation of a filter sweep. You just highlight the instrument rack and it instantly maps the exact parameters that you commonly use.

This can save you a bunch of time not having to constantly map controls you wish to automate, and help to not interrupt your flow.

Anyway, i'll give it a try and report back!

Re: Trakotr S4 in midi mode as Ableton Live Controller

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:47 am
Hey guys, did either of you get this going? I am looking to try the same thing. I basically want to use an APC40 and a Kontrol S4 to control ableton. I've been doing a lot of searching and reading and your post comes closest to what I'm looking to do. I think my real desire is more of a pipe dream, but I'll lay this out and I would appreciate an opinion if you think this is possible.

If I setup Ableton to have say 10 tracks, 5 of them I set to the A channel and 5 to B channel. Could I in some way run Traktor and have it accept the A channel output from Ableton as a deck source? Same with B to B? Then I could map the crossfader on my S4 to the crossfade of Ableton giving me control of both software's crossfade at the same time. I would then use the APC40 to kick off tracks (which are then fed into Traktor) and control Ableton effects. And my S4 would still be controlling Traktor (Ableton channels are the audio source) and those effects, EQ, loops, all the cool things Traktor does that Ableton doesn't do so well.

I guess my main issue is when I select my S4 as the output source for Ableton, I don't get any controls from my S4 other than master volume. I would love to be able to use the EQ and effects on the S4 while having Ableton completely drive my audio output. Like I said, I don't think that's possible based on the reading I've done. But any thoughts are appreciated. Or if you have any success stories from the other method, I could at least try to map out my S4 to control Ableton and not run Traktor at all.

Thanks!

Re: Trakotr S4 in midi mode as Ableton Live Controller

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:56 am
by AmDef
It's works, most the time some times it doesn't function with abelton proper and I have to turn shit off and on again to get it to function.