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The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:55 am
by Ill Frequencies
I am currently going through "The Dance Music Manual" and am having a few issues with getting the "Rise and Fall Pad". I am using Analog for this experiment.

Firstly it says "set the filter envelope to maximum positive modulation" but I have no idea what exactly maximum positive modulation is and how to set it on Analog.

Secondly it says "use the filter’s key follow so that it tracks the pitch of the notes being played". Once again I have no idea what the filters key follow is, does or how to set it.

Any help would be great =)

I will probably have many more questions as I go through the chapter :p

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:20 am
by octopod
In the filter section of Analog there's a Freq Mod subsection. In there are Key and Env settings. So set the Env to maximum (+16) for maximum positive modulation. The Key is for key follow. When set positive then the higher the note you play the more the filter will be opened up. The value of the setting decides how much the frequency "follows" the frequency of the note you are playing.

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:30 pm
by Ill Frequencies
Thanks Octopod exactly what I was looking for =]

In the next section I have a Triangle and a Square and it says "modulate the pitch of the triangle oscillator with a sine wave LFO". But I can't work out how to modulate just one of the waves with the LFO?

I am using Operator for this one because Analog doesn't seem to have a Triangle..?! :/

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:53 pm
by octopod
In Analog LFO 1 modulates the pitch of Osc 1 and LFO2 does Osc 2. There's also no triangle wave as I found when I went to make that patch in that book :)

You can pull up Live's manual from the Help menu, it has a section for every instrument. The Analog one includes a signal flow diagram you should look through.

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:22 am
by Ill Frequencies
Sweet cheers for the help dude, will have to check the manual more often.

I always forget that it's there :p

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:58 am
by Ill Frequencies
Just another question. What exactly do the coarse and fine knobs in Operator control?
Is it coarse= semitones and fine= cents?

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:21 am
by Palmer Eldritch
Ill Frequencies wrote:Just another question. What exactly do the coarse and fine knobs in Operator control?
Is it coarse= semitones and fine= cents?
Coarse = Frequency Multiplicator per value step (1 = original Octave (freq) , 0.5 = 1 Octave lower (1/2 freq), 2 = 1 Octave Higher (2*freq), 4 = 2 Octaves Higher (4*freq), 8 = 3 Octaves Higher (8*freq) ... )

FIne = 1/1000 Octaves per value step, means that the maximal value of 1000 is one Octave up. (unfortunately due to this behavior it is not easy to find the right values for semitones).


regards, palmer

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:58 pm
by Ill Frequencies
Thanks Palmer :)

More questions as I am working my way through this book...
When they say for example to detune something by 2 cents is that equal to .02 of a semitone?
Also is there a way to get a pulse wave on Operator?

Thanks

Re: The Dance Music Manual- Programming Theory help needed

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:22 pm
by Ill Frequencies
Ok I have worked out that yes 100 cents is equal to a semitone.
I have been using Analog and have found that if you use the Rect. wave setting you can adjust the pulse width :)