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URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:25 pm
by TechnoLover
Hi everybody!

I don't like to use that "urgent" word in topics, so I hope you won't mind but I got a really annoying problem that I need to get solved asap...

I am doing a hybrid between a DJ set and a Live Act, using the 2 first tracks of my ableton set for the 2 decks (and the other tracks for the live stuff) ...

I decided to map the EQs of these 2 decks to the AKAI APC 40 "Pan" feature (which I am not gonna use for anything else) : I got the buttons 1 , 2 and 3 for the EQ of the Deck A (Low, Med, Hi) and buttons 5 6 and 7 for the EQ of the Deck B (Low, Med, Hi) ...

My problem is that when I switch from the "Pan" feature to the "Sends" feature (as example) then come back to the "Pan" feature to work on the EQs, the APC 40 buttons are "reset" ... When I switch from Send to Pan, all the APC 40 buttons are back to "0" which mean they simply cut the frequencies instead of staying at the frequencies I put them before... I want them to keep their positions of course...

Once you bounce over to a send then return to pan the position of the EQ is no longer recalled so it automatically cuts the sound because the far left position on the knob is the default position. Using the device control it will recognize the position of the live device on the midi surface, but like I said, you can't manipulate both channels at the same time.

Sorry for my bad english, I hope you guys will understand what I mean...

Thank you so much for your help!

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:19 pm
by S4racen
Its a fault of some apc40s....

It's why I built my max4live device originally...

Cheers
D

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:26 pm
by TechnoLover
only some? that means I was unlucky with the APC40 i bought ? =(

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:33 pm
by S4racen
Yeah it's hard to say which ones are affected, mine was an early one and definitely did but other people havent reported the same problem....

Cheers
D

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:36 pm
by TechnoLover
they should provide a new firmware or something like that :( I am totally fucked up :cry:

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:57 pm
by S4racen
They havent updated a thing since release... i dont know if hanz petrovs remote scripts solve it....

Akai's point of view is that the unit simply sends midi, anything else is Abletons responsibility...

The controller is awesome out of the box but i'd have expected an update by now...

CHeers
D

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:59 pm
by TechnoLover
yeah... and this bug really pisses me off... the only solution I have found is to simply stop using the send effects... which is really bad :(

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:35 am
by willdahbe
I also have this problem when setting up my own custom midi mapping on the "track controls". Usually if I set it up my mapping, save the set and quit, and restart the same set, it fixes this problem for me.

Also I have the takeover mode set to none.

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:17 pm
by TechnoLover
doesn't seem to work here :(

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:55 am
by TechnoLover
I am still looking for a way to fix this... little bump :D

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:00 pm
by S4racen
Have you tried Hanz Petrovs remote scripts?


Apart from that i dont think there is one, you may have to look into alternatives like Bomes or Max4Live, alternatively return the unit and test a new one?

Lobby Akai!!



Cheers
D

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:50 pm
by JuanSOLO
Yeah Hanz script will help, and it will give your Track Control a real sweet layout, especially if your DJing with it. However, I still get a lil weirdness here and there with my Track Control Knobs and Hanz's script. Not sure if it's the script or the APC40.

ALSO, dont quote me on this, but since 8.2.6 Hanz's script seems to have lost some control.

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:18 pm
by toxictobi
Just read your thread TechnoLover and tryed it resulting in the same problem, though I´ve never really done any deejaying with Live & the APC yet..
anyway, by checking the midi-preferences I realized that the Remote-button of the APC-Output was turned off, after switching it on it seems to work properly now...
maybe I´m just lucky to have a "good unit" (it´s my 2nd APC40, the first one had a very loud whining noise issue...)

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:11 am
by TechnoLover
gotta check it when I am back out but I am pretty sure I already did...

Re: URGENT! AKAI APC 40 : Midi Mapping (DJ SET)

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:02 am
by TechnoLover
looks like it's hopeless :(