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APC40: Is there a way move the red box with the cue knob?
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:35 pm
by Muzik 4 Machines
i use an apc40
is there a way to do that(cue to redbox), as clicking 5 by 5 is pretty much a PITA to go to scene 995, a simple knob twist would be so much better, or some way to center the redbox on what you see (it seems to do the reverse, when i move the redbox the view jumps right to the box, when i press shift the view moves to the box), reverse would be nice, as i could assign the cue or master fader to scene select and some other button (like record) to "jump" the redbox in place
or simpy have the redbox being assignable to a cc like the cue know, that would be SO simple
Re: assigning the cue knob to vertical red box position
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:39 am
by Muzik 4 Machines
sorry to bump this but 4 views?
Re: assigning the cue knob to vertical red box position
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:42 am
by S4racen
Can't be done unless you do it in Max4live or write a new remote script.... You'll find that you'll have the APC40 struggle to keep up, theres a reason it goes five at a time...
Cheers
D
Re: assigning the cue knob to vertical red box position
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:14 am
by Muzik 4 Machines
i know i have to mod the script, i know how to do it in step by step (i used the mdp script for my bcf to test (asigned the required cc and notes in the bcf to match the script but i saw there was a command for moving the box by button push increments 5x5 or 3x3 ar anything
but the cue knob outputs a relative controller
apc40 communication protocol.pdf wrote:Interpretation of MIDI Controller values for Relative Controllers
The value in the data field will indicate a relative change; values 01 to 63 describe a positive change and values 127 down to 64 describe a negative change.
but in the script it's addressed like this
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def _setup_session_control(self):
is_momentary = False
right_button = ButtonElement(is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0, 118)
left_button = ButtonElement(is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0, 117)
up_button = ButtonElement(is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0, 115)
down_button = ButtonElement(is_momentary, MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0, 116)
even using the master as a scroller(which would be pretty intuitive to get in the ball park and then adjust with the arrows to the nearest "latch")
but the mdp script uses just the cc with 0 for nothing and 127 for a button press, but in need more af a advance a block of five or 10 every cc value increment
Re: assigning the cue knob to vertical red box position
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:43 pm
by Muzik 4 Machines
another lil bump as i am sure someone knows hot to do this hack
Re: assigning the cue knob to vertical red box position
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:11 pm
by Warrior Bob
I can't say I know hot to do it.
The only thing I would think of to try is to route the output of the APC through some kind of intermediary software (Bome's or something like that), and transform any controls that you need formatted differently. It's not a terribly clean solution but with integrated hardware like the APC, which doesn't provide any easy way to reprogram it, I'm not sure what else to do.
Re: APC40: Is there a way move the red box with the cue knob?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:52 am
by S4racen
Mate i've been hacking the apc40 since the day i got it, both with bomes and then max4live.... What you're asking for no one else has done, i've seen one patch on max4live.com that made the redbox jump but you really are barking up the wrong tree trying to use the cue knob, Ableton will simply freeze when you do mange to achieve it as it can't deal with that many calls....
Just saying...
Cheers
D
Re: APC40: Is there a way move the red box with the cue knob?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:01 am
by Muzik 4 Machines
so do you think there would be a way to just "center redbox on what i see on screen"(cause i used to use a cc to scroll the scenes and it worked perfectly)
its just totally not cool to press shift down on the apc like 100 times(as there is no hold and scroll) to reack scene 500(song 25 in my set)
Re: APC40: Is there a way move the red box with the cue knob?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:23 am
by S4racen
I'll have a look into it in max4live, but i believe this is possible, it was a feature i looked into by pressing and holding the track select button i focus on the waveform of the playing clip, would be handy to have this then move the redbox so that it makes the playing clip the centre of the five....
Cheers
D