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Is there a simple 303 emulation in Live? All the synths are incredible but I need something more basic with just the right glide. Believe it or not, I used to use Computer Music's CM303 until I switched to OSX and it was the easiest to work with. Any suggestions?

Nevermind. TAU Bassline.

joeyfivecents wrote:Nevermind. TAU Bassline PRO.

Fixed

i like Phoscyon by D16.

Phoscyon sounds amazing but I must have it nearly a year now and I still don't fully understand how it works. It's not exactly intuitive is it? I tend to just use it like a midi instrument but it seems there's a lot more to it than just playing notes and playing with the cutoff/res. Everytime I try to spend some time trying to figure it out I get bored.

Phoscyon is the best 303 emulation I've ever come across. But use another distortion and not its on board one.

Prefer ABL2 to Phosycon. Much closer to 303, especially on square wave. Onboard distortion is also very warm and fuzzy

psyfi wrote:Phoscyon is the best 303 emulation I've ever come across. But use another distortion and not its on board one.

Huh? Phoscyons distortion is killer!

sigabort wrote:Prefer ABL2 to Phosycon. Much closer to 303, especially on square wave. Onboard distortion is also very warm and fuzzy

Yeah I prefer ABL2's square wave as well. It's a little thicker. Phoscyon has some great little extras though, like an atach setting and note length!

agreed, note length is really nice.

Isn't there a one in the free Retro Synths download called TeeBee?

GillyDJ wrote:Isn't there a one in the free Retro Synths download called TeeBee?

Ya but unless you aren't changing the filter, it isn't passable. The filter knob actually switches between different sets of samples at different filter settings so there are abrupt changes in the filter sound as you change it. Nice sound, but not tweakable as you play.

I use both ABL2 and Phoscyon - ABL2 is more faithful reproduction of the original, Phoscyon has more balls.

Phoscyon: Best sound but inconvenient GUI.

ABL2: Sounds also good, has good GUI, but is also more expensive.


Forget about samples if you want the truth (ok if you want the truth, get the original or at least a x0xb0x).

tigali wrote:Phoscyon sounds amazing but I must have it nearly a year now and I still don't fully understand how it works. It's not exactly intuitive is it? I tend to just use it like a midi instrument but it seems there's a lot more to it than just playing notes and playing with the cutoff/res. Everytime I try to spend some time trying to figure it out I get bored.

Totally agree with your assessment here...the manual isn't very good either. They should produce some simple YouTube videos.

DJ Ballistic wrote:

tigali wrote:Phoscyon sounds amazing but I must have it nearly a year now and I still don't fully understand how it works. It's not exactly intuitive is it? I tend to just use it like a midi instrument but it seems there's a lot more to it than just playing notes and playing with the cutoff/res. Everytime I try to spend some time trying to figure it out I get bored.

Totally agree with your assessment here...the manual isn't very good either. They should produce some simple YouTube videos.

I just don't bother with the sequencer, same as I don't bother with the sequencer in ABL2 - it's as counterintuitive as the one on the real McCoy - I just send midi to them, overlap midi notes for slide, louder notes for accent, piece of piss. Unfortunately I'm stuck with the sequencer on my TB... Could always midi it up, I guess.