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How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:52 pm
by bmulder
Hello,

Does anyone know if it is possible to be able to send MIDI cc controls from ableton? I have a hardware module that can be controlled by a MIDI controller, but without a MIDI controller, I'm wondering if I can edit the module through getting ableton to send MIDI cc's to it. Possible?

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:03 pm
by yur2die4
Create a midi channel, create new midi clip. There are cc options for clip automation

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:35 pm
by bmulder
is there no way I can like insert an instrument rack and assign the macro controls to certain CC's?

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:48 pm
by Warrior Bob
bmulder wrote:is there no way I can like insert an instrument rack and assign the macro controls to certain CC's?
There is not that I know of, although personally I think it'd be awesome to have a MIDI device with one knob on it that sends a given CC whenever that knob moves. It'd be useful for precisely this reason.

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:26 pm
by 8O
The instant mapping configuration also sends MIDI out on the same CCs as it uses for MIDI in.

Using this approach with an empty rack and instant mapping you can send out 8 MIDI CCs of your choice...

Not sure if this is actually documented anywhere, but it works.

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:53 pm
by Muzik 4 Machines
bmulder wrote:is there no way I can like insert an instrument rack and assign the macro controls to certain CC's?
max4live is the only solution untill 1) someone develops a vst/au MIDI fx and b) ableton get their heads out of their asses and let vst MIDI fx act like midi fx and not audio plugins

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:31 pm
by bmulder
8O wrote:The instant mapping configuration also sends MIDI out on the same CCs as it uses for MIDI in.

Using this approach with an empty rack and instant mapping you can send out 8 MIDI CCs of your choice...

Not sure if this is actually documented anywhere, but it works.
cool. then I suppose I can put a rack in rack in rack for 24 cc's

But, without a controller, how do I create these new mappings?

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:39 pm
by 8O
bmulder wrote:
8O wrote:The instant mapping configuration also sends MIDI out on the same CCs as it uses for MIDI in.

Using this approach with an empty rack and instant mapping you can send out 8 MIDI CCs of your choice...

Not sure if this is actually documented anywhere, but it works.
cool. then I suppose I can put a rack in rack in rack for 24 cc's
Hmmm... don't think that will work... the instant mapping, at least what's configurable in the user remote script, is limited to 8 macro knobs.

But I just checked something: if you manually map an incoming CC to a Live macro knob, then moving that Live macro knob will send out the same MIDI CC... so you're not limited to the instant mapping, you can do what you suggest, you just need to manually map the knobs instead...

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:56 am
by bmulder
Ok, and to clarify, by manually mapping you mean entering MIDI map mode, and hitting a function within lie followed by a knob on a controller, right? or is there a 'more manual' way of doing it.

Re: How to get ableton to send MIDI CC?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:49 am
by 8O
bmulder wrote:Ok, and to clarify, by manually mapping you mean entering MIDI map mode, and hitting a function within lie followed by a knob on a controller, right?
yup,