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Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:57 am
by seventhirtyfour
Is there a way to pick where sounds are coming from in the stereo field? The closest thing I have come to is panning, but I don't want it to oscillate (I've also tried M/S EQing but that's not what I am looking for). Is there a way to make the sound come at my strictly from, say, 25R and 25L? I am trying to space out my percussion samples in the stereo field. Anyways, if anyone has any insight....much, much appreciated. Thanks so much guys.

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:00 am
by Tone Deft
turn the volume down to 25%.

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:26 am
by DangerousDave
Ya, pan. You must have tried the autopan audio effect, which will oscillate, but the pan knob on every fader does simply that - pans a track either left or right. This alone will not place sounds naturally in the stereo field but panning is a good place to start. If you want a sound to come from both the left 25 and r 25 simultaneously that is a little different story.

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:34 am
by simmerdown
if you did want both you would have to offset the timing by a few ms or else it would appear to be in the middle..

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:34 am
by simmerdown
reverb can emulate the near/far...combine with pan and vol

we humans arent so hot with the up/down thing...thats why owls have offset ears, and why we tilt our heads to pinpoint sounds in the x-plane...

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:47 am
by steko
RT1. Binaural Panner: http://seanny.net/renzutools/

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:04 am
by seventhirtyfour
steko wrote:RT1. Binaural Panner: http://seanny.net/renzutools/
Thanks, steko. I'll check this thing out. Am I just crazy or does that light snare that comes in at the beginning of this sound like it's coming directly from the side of each ear?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFttQbkTKi0

This is where I heard it and was just wondering if it was possible within Ableton to do that...if I was just missing something. Anyways, thank you for all of the replies.

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:13 am
by DangerousDave
seventhirtyfour wrote:
steko wrote:RT1. Binaural Panner: http://seanny.net/renzutools/
Thanks, steko. I'll check this thing out. Am I just crazy or does that light snare that comes in at the beginning of this sound like it's coming directly from the side of each ear?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFttQbkTKi0

This is where I heard it and was just wondering if it was possible within Ableton to do that...if I was just missing something. Anyways, thank you for all of the replies.
Ya, it does sound like that, it could be duplicated, one panned each way, and then offset slightly (similar to a chorus effect, or "spread" in sampler) which simmerdown already pointed out.

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:31 pm
by steko

Re: Choosing where sounds come from....

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:56 am
by seventhirtyfour
DangerousDave - Thanks for the idea man. I will definitely try that out. I just have a feeling too that it is my skill level/self-critical thinking that is holding this track back from sounding completely where I want it. We will see how it goes.

steko - that article was pretty awesome. And the rack they had in there is pretty sick...messing around with it now.