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Hello.
I am slightly confused here and am looking for assistance making Max for Live devices that control external analog poly synths.
What we are searching for is a modular style patch builder that works with an analog poly synth.

Oberheim Matrix 6 and Xpander to start.

thanks.

first of all, I love the expander. Love it, one of the best synths of that era.

Okay, now dig out the manual. The expander, IIRC, is programmed remotely via sysex, which will mean that you can't use MaxForLive to do the programming.

If you want to connect to Live via MaxForLive you'll need to have a MfL patch that communicates with a Max patch outside Live, which will in turn send out the sysex.

Or use Leigh Hunt's lhmidi objects, if you are on OSX.

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absolutely.
http://web.mac.com/leighhunt/iWeb/Site/downloads.html

The stuff about the respective manuals still stands

OK im checking into this all...

Yeah Ive seen objects that control (cc)

Im wanting to build patches on the OBIs like I was wireing all the modules and mod matrix...


is there any finished examples I can look at?

thanks
dx

a friend of mine recently programmed all the parameters fro a matrix 6 into a Behring BCR2000 (a controller with 30 knobs).
I guess he has all the systex strings to do the parameter changing, then you would just need to build the device in m4l.

Changing the values of the matrix 6 is quite unresponsive. It's not like when you have dedicated controls on a synth. Sending the sysex data to control the parameters makes programming much easier and quicker, but it's probably not a performance option (you also get hanging notes and jitter when you turn the controls too quickly). Lastly he hasn't got the modulation matrix controlled via midi sysex yet.

jrs1 wrote:a friend of mine recently programmed all the parameters fro a matrix 6 into a Behring BCR2000 (a controller with 30 knobs).
I guess he has all the systex strings to do the parameter changing, then you would just need to build the device in m4l.

Changing the values of the matrix 6 is quite unresponsive. It's not like when you have dedicated controls on a synth. Sending the sysex data to control the parameters makes programming much easier and quicker, but it's probably not a performance option (you also get hanging notes and jitter when you turn the controls too quickly). Lastly he hasn't got the modulation matrix controlled via midi sysex yet.

that is true to a point however if you buffer space the strings you can avoid the choke. there are a few other tricks. but for remote patch building...

Like I want to have a wireframe diagram like a box for the DCO and a wire to the LFO EG and VCF... all my matrix mod routings...

I wonder if the Marrion MSr2 has a faster sysex situation, processor lag.. pfft