Set loop points for multiple clips (e.g. multitrack drums)
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:50 pm
Hello,
I am the bandleader for a Cirque du Soleil show called Kooza, and I run Live in Session View on the show. I also play trombones and keyboards. Live rocks!!
My question is: How can i change the loop points for multiple clips?
We are in the process of adding backup drums and percussion to the Ableton Live Sets we use in performance. The drums and percussion have been multi-track recorded (21 one-hour long .wav files for each half of the show, all with identical length). I have dropped the files into new Live Sets in Arrange View and have been cutting them into clips which I then drag and drop into Session View for use in the show. This is generally quite simple for clips that don't need to loop. In fact, I have Warp disabled for most of the audio in the show. However, for the clips that DO need to loop, I'm finding it very tedious to go in and manually set loop points for each clip. For each musical section that needs to loop, I have 21 clips that all need to do the exact same thing - all the files were played to a click. I haven't found a way to do it that doesn't destroy my hands with unnecessary repetitive motion. I have used clip follow actions whenever possible, as I can easily set those for multiple clips. But that solution is impractical for many situations. I also know that warp markers can be set for multiple clips of identical length, but don't know of a way to do this with loop points. I have searched the forums and answers (some very useful info here!!) but have not found a solution thus far.
Here is the most efficient workflow I have found, when follow actions are not practical:
1) In arrange view, for each edit, I select all 21 clips and trim them at once to match the start and end of the musical section, then determine where I want the loop to happen using the Arrangement Loop Brace. Easy enough.
2) Turn on Warp for all clips (they are still multi-selected so that's easy too)
3) Note the Loop Brace position and manually enter the same Loop Start and Length values for each clip (in clip view - this is the step I want to streamline).
4) Select all 21 clips again and turn on Loop (If I turn on Loop before setting the loop points, it messes up the start point of the clip.)
5) Then I can drag the clips into Session view and everything is cool.
It would be insanely great if I could do something like this:
1) In the arrange view, trim all the regions to length
2) Set the arrangement loop brace and right-click (or use a key command) on the selected clips to set the loop points for all of them based on the arrangement loop brace
3) Drop them into Session View.
Does this make sense? Am I missing something? I'd appreciate any help. I emailed support who told me this is impossible but suggested that I post here to generate dialog.
I am the bandleader for a Cirque du Soleil show called Kooza, and I run Live in Session View on the show. I also play trombones and keyboards. Live rocks!!
My question is: How can i change the loop points for multiple clips?
We are in the process of adding backup drums and percussion to the Ableton Live Sets we use in performance. The drums and percussion have been multi-track recorded (21 one-hour long .wav files for each half of the show, all with identical length). I have dropped the files into new Live Sets in Arrange View and have been cutting them into clips which I then drag and drop into Session View for use in the show. This is generally quite simple for clips that don't need to loop. In fact, I have Warp disabled for most of the audio in the show. However, for the clips that DO need to loop, I'm finding it very tedious to go in and manually set loop points for each clip. For each musical section that needs to loop, I have 21 clips that all need to do the exact same thing - all the files were played to a click. I haven't found a way to do it that doesn't destroy my hands with unnecessary repetitive motion. I have used clip follow actions whenever possible, as I can easily set those for multiple clips. But that solution is impractical for many situations. I also know that warp markers can be set for multiple clips of identical length, but don't know of a way to do this with loop points. I have searched the forums and answers (some very useful info here!!) but have not found a solution thus far.
Here is the most efficient workflow I have found, when follow actions are not practical:
1) In arrange view, for each edit, I select all 21 clips and trim them at once to match the start and end of the musical section, then determine where I want the loop to happen using the Arrangement Loop Brace. Easy enough.
2) Turn on Warp for all clips (they are still multi-selected so that's easy too)
3) Note the Loop Brace position and manually enter the same Loop Start and Length values for each clip (in clip view - this is the step I want to streamline).
4) Select all 21 clips again and turn on Loop (If I turn on Loop before setting the loop points, it messes up the start point of the clip.)
5) Then I can drag the clips into Session view and everything is cool.
It would be insanely great if I could do something like this:
1) In the arrange view, trim all the regions to length
2) Set the arrangement loop brace and right-click (or use a key command) on the selected clips to set the loop points for all of them based on the arrangement loop brace
3) Drop them into Session View.
Does this make sense? Am I missing something? I'd appreciate any help. I emailed support who told me this is impossible but suggested that I post here to generate dialog.
