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Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:56 am
by jezjonson
Hi
I have a really good disco loop and part of it is a really cool bassline.
I tried EQing the entire loop and the bassline sounds good, even with some of the other frequencies heard slightly.
However, there is a lot of hiss and it's a bit muddy. Is there a better way of making a clean bassline from a disco loop?
thanks in advance JJ
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:07 am
by beatmunga
As you know, you can't turn a cake back into eggs, flour and sugar. So be prepared to compromise:
1. Low pass filter. Should remove all hiss.
2. Replay with synth (sampled bass patches are usually horrible)
3. Replay with bass guitar. Lots of bassists around, many who will work for beer.
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:48 pm
by jezjonson
beatmunga wrote:As you know, you can't turn a cake back into eggs, flour and sugar. So be prepared to compromise:
1. Low pass filter. Should remove all hiss.
2. Replay with synth (sampled bass patches are usually horrible)
3. Replay with bass guitar. Lots of bassists around, many who will work for beer.
great advice - thanks.
but are these; 3 separate suggestions or are all 3 reliant on each other or in an order of priority.
sorry to be pedantic, but really want to know the best way thru' this.

Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:42 pm
by alphadelphi
4 - use melodyne
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:08 pm
by beatmunga
jezjonson wrote:beatmunga wrote:As you know, you can't turn a cake back into eggs, flour and sugar. So be prepared to compromise:
1. Low pass filter. Should remove all hiss.
2. Replay with synth (sampled bass patches are usually horrible)
3. Replay with bass guitar. Lots of bassists around, many who will work for beer.
great advice - thanks.
but are these; 3 separate suggestions or are all 3 reliant on each other or in an order of priority.
sorry to be pedantic, but really want to know the best way thru' this.

No, not all three - ranked in reverse order of ballache/authenticity.
3 being maximum of both.
Can't speak for melodyne. Are we sure it can do this? May be able to retune it, but
solo it? Is it that clever?
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:12 pm
by Rampus
beatmunga wrote:...Can't speak for melodyne. Are we sure it can do this? May be able to retune it, but solo it? Is it that clever?
No.
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:49 pm
by beatmunga
Rampus wrote:beatmunga wrote:...Can't speak for melodyne. Are we sure it can do this? May be able to retune it, but solo it? Is it that clever?
No.
Thought not.
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:50 am
by mrobare
how about a program called transcriber
it will allow you to slow down play back rate and use a keyboard(has one built in)
or any instrument you play and transcribe it your self
http://www.seventhstring.com
i use it to learn guitar and bass parts all the time
devobtch
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:59 am
by lunabass
low-pass filter, then melodyne, then extract to midi. will require some editing of the midi file but you'll be quite close
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:16 am
by beatmunga
lunabass wrote:low-pass filter, then melodyne, then extract to midi. will require some editing of the midi file but you'll be quite close
It's a sad day when technology has so distanced the user from actual music that a person can't even sit at a midi keyboard and work out a monophonic disco bassline.
Reminds me of the 'how do i get realistic shakers' thread: several pages of advice on sample libraries and subtle timing shifts in the midi editor...
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:41 am
by lunabass
beatmunga wrote:It's a sad day when technology has so distanced the user from actual music that a person can't even sit at a midi keyboard and work out a monophonic disco bassline...
jezjonson lost his fingers in a horrific texting accident
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:54 pm
by beatmunga
lunabass wrote:beatmunga wrote:It's a sad day when technology has so distanced the user from actual music that a person can't even sit at a midi keyboard and work out a monophonic disco bassline...
jezjonson lost his fingers in a horrific texting accident
Manages to use Ableton, EQs, and start threads. Putting a few notes in a bar should be a piece of piss.
The nose, or any other semi rigid singular physical peninsula, would be an adequate substitute for the missing single finger needed for this kind of shit.
Or did he lose his sense of rhythm, harmony and timbre when he started using Ableton live, like so many others..?
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:15 pm
by bartend7
It's a sad day when technology has so distanced the user from actual music that a person can't even sit at a midi keyboard and work out a monophonic disco bassline.
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+1000
disco bassline?...cmon. figure it out and play it. yes it takes time, but the more you do it the easier it gets. thats the musical way. dj way= low pass filter.
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:39 am
by lunabass
jezjonson, so it seems playing bass-lines with any protruding cartilage is quite easy. i've tried it but my nose is rather large and i find it difficult to play just one note at a time, things may be a little easier for you. i also find the application of after-touch impossible without sneezing, how did you get on?
Re: Extracting bassline from a disco loop
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:47 am
by beatmunga
lunabass wrote:jezjonson, so it seems playing bass-lines with any protruding cartilage is quite easy. i've tried it but my nose is rather large and i find it difficult to play just one note at a time, things may be a little easier for you. i also find the application of after-touch impossible without sneezing, how did you get on?
I'm sorry to hear that lunabass. Your proboscal surplus is the 'Radelaide' Jackin' scene's loss.