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Ok, love Live. Don't love some things so much and need to get it off my chest. If anyone spots something that you can do already please tell me!

- Layered midi editing! Check out bitwig. In Renoise I can see and edit multiple notes from multiple channels at the same time. Once you've used a DAW with that it's a pain to not be able to.

- Zooming while dragging the mouse in the main arrangement view. Why do I have to move up to that small bar on top to zoom? I can move my view around easily with Ctrl+Alt left click without using the top bar, but can't zoom. Ctrl+Alt right click for zoom please?

- Better mix routing options. In Renoise I can send anything from anywhere, like send a frequency band right in the middle of my fx chain and have the option to keep that sent signal or not in my channel strip. In Live I'll have to do a phase invert hack to even be able to send something and not keeping the signal. Sure, there's other hacks like grouping etc but improvements are needed.

- Freeze track improvements. I mean, I even have to delete a sidechained compressor in my channel to be able to freeze it. Switching it off doesn't work. And the argument that Live does this so that session view 'works' doesn't apply, all Live needs to do is ask for dependency channels (a kick driving the sidechain or whatever) to be processed while freezing or not.

- Grouping of groups.

- Converting a vsti into a sample instrument. How Renoise does it is by going through notes e.g C2 - C5 in steps of 3 and length of 1 bar, then it puts those samples into the correct note ranges so you'll play them just as expected. Velocity range and step would also be a great option.

- Individual note edits such as pitch shifting one note on one instrument on bar X, not all notes on bar X.

- Fix the automation! It's very inaccurate right now, doing a jump from 0% to 100% on something won't happen exactly where you tell it to. Latency doesn't compensate properly I'm guessing.

- Purge memory option. I kind of know when I'm getting into bad territory for a crash due to lack of memory and would love to be able to dump the undo stack. 64bits will help immensely but still..

hey,

I posted almost the same requirements in my "big list"

Glad to see I'm not the only one with amazingly great ideas then.

Honestly, these things bug me each time I use Live. Maybe not the freezing part as I don't do it that often but I actually shun doing it since it's such a hassle. If I have to delete my compressors I also have to store them in another channel so that I can move it back in once frozen etc. Yes, a workflow that caters for this helps but I'd rather not have to..

Polyson, where's your list? I'm trying to find your posts but I'm not sure how to do that on this forum.

Actually going to add something that's great in Renoise;

- Converting a vsti into a sample instrument. How Renoise does it is by going through notes e.g C2 - C5 in steps of 3 and length of 1 bar, then it puts those samples into the correct note ranges so you'll play them just as expected. Velocity range and step would also be a great option.

Hi Nemou,

Here is my list :

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=184649

funken wrote:

Nemou wrote:
-Zooming while dragging the mouse in the main arrangement view. Why do I have to move up to that small bar on top to zoom? I can move my view around easily with Ctrl+Alt left click without using the top bar, but can't zoom. Ctrl+Alt right click for zoom please?

I use F8 to zoom, see my website
http://www.macableton.com/easy-ways-to- ... -Live.html

Nemou wrote:

-Freeze track improvements. I mean, I even have to delete a sidechained compressor in my channel to be able to freeze it. Switching it off doesn't work.

Put the compressor on an audio track and route to that, again see my website, see the routing and sidechain compression tutorials

Nemou wrote: -Grouping of groups.

again, explained on my website, see the routing tutorial. well, it's a workaround

Thanks, I'm aware of the routing options for compression and grouping, just don't want to have to do it every time. And also I'd like to be able to freeze things with sidechain compression baked in.

Didn't know about f8 though, and can't get it to work even after reading your page. The +/- is ok, but I'd rather do my zooming much like the moving, with Ctrl+alt and mouse. I know some people actually use the bars on the side of the window which I think is insanity but I'm maybe just used to more intuitive navigation systems in other software. At least moving around is easy.

Added these three:

- Individual note edits such as pitch shifting one note on one instrument on bar X, not all notes on bar X.

- Fix the automation! It's very inaccurate right now, doing a jump from 0% to 100% on something won't happen exactly where you tell it to. Latency doesn't compensate properly I'm guessing.

- Purge memory option. I kind of know when I'm getting into bad territory for a crash due to lack of memory and would love to be able to dump the undo stack. 64bits will help immensely but still..

Once again, if anyone knows if these things are possible (thanks funken for the help!) for any of these I'd be happy to hear.

funken wrote: Well, it's one I made up. Are you on a Mac or PC?

Oh. PC here!