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Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:27 am
by buckman
Is there a tip to this?

I'm doing a DJ mix of tracks with EQ (bass) etc so the tracks don't clash, and have put the Ableton Limiter on the master channel.

With the mix transitions, and samples flying over the top, how do you get the headroom back, mixing 'finished' dance tracks together without it clipping?

Do I turn down the master fader to say -6db or turn down the individual channels to -6 (with the records/tracks on) and mix back in overlay loops and samples as if its a brand new track?

At the moment, I have a maximizser on the master and the finished mix is a bit of a brick (the tracks were a little anyway before hand) but just asking to see how others and professional DJ's overcome this to get dynamics and energy back into a DJ mix alongside riffs, and samples from Ableton?

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:49 pm
by Tarekith
Lower the clip volumes of all the songs until you get your headroom back?

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:27 pm
by bkwsk
Too much overlimiting there it seems. I wouldn't put a maximizer in the master channel if I were working with finished pieces of music, you're going to destroy them. Just put a limiter to "catch the peaks" -which you might not even need- and that's it.

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:17 pm
by yur2die4
Decide if you want it to sound loud on small systems, or Good on loud systems.

Loud systems can always compensate for quietness, but if you lose the dynamics, you might as well be hugging an angry badger.

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:58 pm
by buckman
Tarekith wrote:Lower the clip volumes of all the songs until you get your headroom back?
So this is the actual clip waveform volume in the warping section, and NOT touch the channel volume sliders?

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:40 pm
by Tarekith
Correct, that's how I prep my tracks to dj in live personally.

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:49 am
by oblique strategies
buckman wrote:
Tarekith wrote:Lower the clip volumes of all the songs until you get your headroom back?
So this is the actual clip waveform volume in the warping section, and NOT touch the channel volume sliders?
Tarekith wrote:Correct, that's how I prep my tracks to dj in live personally.
Are there specific benefits from lowering the clip volume (in advance/preparation) rather than adjust the channel volume faders when mixing, or is this just a personal preference?

Re: Mixing already mastered songs in a DJ mix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:37 am
by Sibanger
^^ I'm thinking, after adjusting the clip to the desired volume, if you slide your Volume Slider to it's peak level, it will never be too loud in the mix. :wink: